Why Wouldn’t NK & F9 Merge?
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“Home of the Bear Fare”
I think the argument for a merger between Spirit & Frontier seems pretty obvious (e.g. massive ULCC, fleet type commonality, similar contracts, route overlap, etc.). There seems to be a consensus that the trajectory of the industry may lead to more consolidation. All that said, why wouldn’t a merger between Spirit + Frontier happen? I know this is all speculative, but it highlights the differences and potential trajectories of the companies.
I think the argument for a merger between Spirit & Frontier seems pretty obvious (e.g. massive ULCC, fleet type commonality, similar contracts, route overlap, etc.). There seems to be a consensus that the trajectory of the industry may lead to more consolidation. All that said, why wouldn’t a merger between Spirit + Frontier happen? I know this is all speculative, but it highlights the differences and potential trajectories of the companies.
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“Home of the Bear Fare”
I think the argument for a merger between Spirit & Frontier seems pretty obvious (e.g. massive ULCC, fleet type commonality, similar contracts, route overlap, etc.). There seems to be a consensus that the trajectory of the industry may lead to more consolidation. All that said, why wouldn’t a merger between Spirit + Frontier happen? I know this is all speculative, but it highlights the differences and potential trajectories of the companies.
I think the argument for a merger between Spirit & Frontier seems pretty obvious (e.g. massive ULCC, fleet type commonality, similar contracts, route overlap, etc.). There seems to be a consensus that the trajectory of the industry may lead to more consolidation. All that said, why wouldn’t a merger between Spirit + Frontier happen? I know this is all speculative, but it highlights the differences and potential trajectories of the companies.
Spirit doesn’t need it. Plenty of ULCC volume for 2 ULCCs, we still make up such a small percentage of domestic travel.
Spirit competes with Legacy carriers more than other ULCC carriers. It’s AA out of ORD and DFW matching our fares, and UAL up in EWR trying to cause issues for gates. I’ve never heard management mention the battle against Frontier out of MCO, if anything, it’s SWA. Plenty of ULCC volume for 2 airlines.
Spirit is trying to tighten up their reputation and image and have been slowly doing that over the years. A merger makes that even more difficult.
Does Franke want to buy Spirit? Will Spirit buy Frontier after an IPO? Will Franke sell Frontier prior to IPO? I would say “nope” on all 3. Plus where does Spirit get the cash to buy Frontier after the year long diluting of our stock and the debt brought on with the pandemic and funding growth.
No merger. Not for the next 5 years.
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“Does Franke want to buy Spirit? Will Spirit buy Frontier after an IPO? Will Franke sell Frontier prior to IPO? I would say “nope” on all 3. Plus where does Spirit get the cash to buy Frontier after the year long diluting of our stock and the debt brought on with the pandemic and funding growth.”
This is the key point. With all other considerations set aside the stumbling block will always be Indigo. They’ll either want too much for Frontier or not be willing to pay enough for Spirit.
This is the key point. With all other considerations set aside the stumbling block will always be Indigo. They’ll either want too much for Frontier or not be willing to pay enough for Spirit.
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They probably weren’t going to merge but once word gets out that they can use the slogan “home of the bear fare”, I wouldn’t be surprised if something is announced the next day
IMHO don’t think it’s likely, not for several years if at all

IMHO don’t think it’s likely, not for several years if at all
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I guess Burger King and McDonalds will merge because they both serve burgers, have $1 items, drive thrus, so similar. They will clearly merge!
There is such things as companies doing similar things and not merging.
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