Stay at Envoy. Spirit wants to shrink dfw big time. Getting their ass kicked there.

I wouldn't be surprised if both companies need an interim agreement before a JCBA. Not guaranteeing it, but wouldn't surprise me.

The regionals are getting their sh!t together. They want to stem the flow of their pilots leaving for LCC or ULCC. What better to pay them better than our FO's at Spirit, Frontier and Blue and give them a flow that will transition to a job at the legacy's within 5 years. If the legacy's really want to do a two prong approach, they could really ramp up hiring our FO's away. Our attrition is up and will continue to be unless they plug the dyke.

The only downside to the regionals is the work rules. But if your a new pilot with sights set on a legacy, this is they way to go.

Legacy and regional airline management are adapting and responding, so far nothing at NK, F9 or B6. At least not directly. I do think the merger work is at least in part about pilots.

We don’t have enough pilots to fly what we have, and we’re supposed to have like 30 more airframes by this time next year. It’s a disaster.

Yep, JB had to cut it's growth rate this year because of pilot staffing. But the COO has a plan, gonna "double down on culture".

Should totally fix the problem. Like trying to fix a leaking beach ball using only a sharp knife. Should totally work.

on that note, I’ve always been convinced I could dig my way out of a hole. If you use the shovel and widen the hole, you’re accumulating new dirt. Allow it to fall under your feet and keep widening, thereby raising the floor. You don’t have to dig straight down and the dirt isn’t going to disappear. Just dig sideways. You go from a deep, skinny well to a shallow, wide swimming pool.

This isn’t accurate. We do have enough pilots to fly what we have. The reduction in flying wasn’t due to lack of crews, it was done to adjust the ratio of reserve pilots due to operations inability to effectively mitigate disruptions. Most of the issues that prolong these disruptions are not caused by lack of crews, rather the inability to coordinate and communicate with the crews they have.

While that is an issue that affects pilots schedules/lifestyle, and yes attrition has been around 5-6% year to date. While that loss equates to higher training and recruiting costs, we are still net positive for total pilot count. Obviously that is not ideal long term, but to make a blanket statement that we don’t have enough pilots to “fly what we have” is a misnomer.

Oh really? You have proof of said ass kicking?