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FlyGuy2002 10-12-2022 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation (Post 3511126)
I was really hoping for more. Kind of disappointing.

there’s a really easy way for you to add to that number .

PossibleDeviation 10-12-2022 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002 (Post 3511134)
there’s a really easy way for you to add to that number .

Easy guy. An increase in attrition would be a good thing.

chesty 10-12-2022 08:22 AM

64 more left in Sept according to latest email and I moved up 6 Capt slots in last 2 weeks

RiddleEagle18 10-12-2022 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 3511114)
64 people left on September at spirit.


CA/FO breakdown?


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CincoDeMayo 10-12-2022 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by riddleeagle18 (Post 3511193)
ca/fo breakdown?


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55 fo 9 ca

The important part is the fact the hired almost 98 pilots and the net is only 34, they only kept 1/3 of their new hires. I believe this is the worst attrition/hire percentage of the year. You can’t hire your way out of this when you manage to get 100 to show up to class and you end the month with barely enough FOs to staff 2 planes, when we are getting 12 this quarter alone and still aren’t up to full
Utilization with the fleet we have

AND still a displacement coming which will have people looking for a move.

JulesWinfield 10-12-2022 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3511230)
55 fo 9 ca

The important part is the fact the hired almost 98 pilots and the net is only 34, they only kept 1/3 of their new hires. I believe this is the worst attrition/hire percentage of the year. You can’t hire your way out of this when you manage to get 100 to show up to class and you end the month with barely enough FOs to staff 2 planes, when we are getting 12 this quarter alone and still aren’t up to full
Utilization with the fleet we have

AND still a displacement coming which will have people looking for a move.

They’ve dug themselves in quite the hole.

Macjet 10-12-2022 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by BananaHammock (Post 3511066)
Can we redo our surveys?

I thought I was pretty aggressive but Breeze new rates have me second guessing

Maybe I'm missing something but the new Breeze rates that I saw resembled our old contract. They're not anything that I'd be shooting for.

If you're not looking at the Alaska TA please step back from the voting booth.

dualinput 10-12-2022 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by Macjet (Post 3511595)
If you're not looking at the Alaska TA please step back from the voting booth.

And they are going to be the floor unless we are actually dumb enough to make a new floor bc of attitudes like “well this is Spirit”

DrSteveBrule 10-13-2022 04:59 AM

Ted's getting his lunch eaten. Every day that goes by, there are more and more announcements of airlines adding service on routes we used to serve. Im not so sure Ted will ever see a profitable quarter again at this company without fixing utilization. There's only one way to fix utilization.

BananaHammock 10-13-2022 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by Macjet (Post 3511595)
Maybe I'm missing something but the new Breeze rates that I saw resembled our old contract. They're not anything that I'd be shooting for.

If you're not looking at the Alaska TA please step back from the voting booth.

I probably could have worded it differently but no reason to be rude in the second half, it's just a sign of a lack of ability to think critically, that's on you at the end of the day though so have fun with that, maybe keep yourself away from any voting booths...

I used an inflation calculator etc., etc., and tried to make a reasonable what I actually thought we could get and added 10% to come up with the answer to the survey question - what is my minimum? My proposed minimum rates came out better than Alaska's by a fair amount.

What I meant was when I saw how much Breeze, whom I do not consider a competitor, got for their rates - I feel like I should have said my minimal acceptable on the survey was higher.


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