Schedule flexibility
 

Hello all.
So one of the main factors that made me decide on NK is the schedule flexibility allowed by the contract. (Being able to drop to 0 if needed and if conditions are met, pick up as needed).
So having said that, would there be a possibility that that could change in a future contract?
Basically asking if there is a chance that the flexibility provisions change and/or are modified?
Just curious.

The only way that would happen is if we willingly let it happen like a doe eyed young starlet on Harvey Weinstein’s office couch.

Our schedule flexibility is the primary reason most people choose to come here and our pilots should be communicating ways to further improve it to their union reps in preparation for section 6. Simply put, any discussion about conceding any part of our current provisions is a complete waste of time.

How does one get paid if we drop some trips? if for example I have 3 4-day trips on my schedule for the month, and I drop 1 trip out of those, how would that be reflected on my paycheck?

You’d probably have 4 four days not three and if you drop one you lose the pay for it.

uhhhh. Did you work the hours?

if not…. You’re not getting paid for them.

We are paid semi monthly. Guarantee is 72 hours.

Last day of the month you are paid 36 hours.

The 15th you are paid 36 hours. Anything you worked over 72 hours LAST month is added. If you dropped below 72 hours it is subtracted. Any per diem, premium pay, or extras from last month will also be in this check.

So to answer your question, if you drop a 4 day this month, and it puts you at say 60 hours credit for this month (12 below 72), then next month your 15th paycheck will be 24 hours plus per diem and extras (36-12=24).

Not sure if I understand the question. How do you think you should be paid?

Let’s just put it this way...you would have a big ‘ol surprise waiting for you when you see your paycheck!

Of course it could change in a future contract and be worse, just as “we” voted to get rid of being able to drop reserve days.


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What are the most consecutive days you could get in a single trip, regardless of seniority? Are 4-5 day trips possible for sake of commuting?

The credit for the trip dropped would be removed from your compensation. If it were a 1 hour trip, your monthly credit would be reduced by one hour. If it were a hundred hour trip, your credit would be reduced by a hundred hours. It's not rocket surgery.

There's no such thing as a 5 day trip. You can put flying into 6 consecutive days according to 117. Read up on what's possible under 117.

or brain science either

Are 4-day trips common at Spirit? Is there a commuter policy? Commuter hotels?

Yes, 2 flights, nope

Our contract is more restrictive than 117, we can't reset the 30 hour clock on a layover, so have to get back to base after 6 days.

Is the 30 hour layover common at NK?

No it’s not

No, but you should be reading the CBA. It is way more restrictive than 117. (and yes. Of course 117 applies too)

You can’t drop reserve days here even if the coverage is good?? Also how long to hold a line at Vegas or just in general??

Was told by a CP that 4 days are going away in favor of 2 day trips. Less overnights in places like MYR so irop recovery is easier. Just the messenger…

Doesn’t seem terribly efficient.

Correct, zero reserve drops…and many of us have been on reserve for a long time.

So what base can you hold a line the fastest? And what’s the time frame on when u can hold a line in that jr. base?

Also any long call reserve here? and are all reserve lines 12 days off?

FLL. Looks like junior line holder is a Q1 2021 hire, so almost a year. We have long call, but generally only a couple of lines per base.

SEE PM. 12 or 13 depending on month, but depending on the commuting situation and what RAP you get you can potentially add another half day off or more on the beginning or end of each reserve period. And if you get a trip that terminates in a deadhead back to base you can often just JS right back to home rather than returning to domicile.

Systemwide or in a particular base?

If you’ve been on rsv a long time you don’t need drops bc you get exactly what you want for days off.

System wide.

You’d have done great at the roadshows in 2018.

Hard to get what you want with only 12/13 days off.

Was there and spoke as well. Been bidding rsv longer than many here have been flying professionally. Just speaking from experience.

i can confirm this as well. Will be announced soon

Well that will make the Dallas boys happy. Very heavy into 4 day trips.

except commuters just got the shaft. More hotels for commuters between your 2 back to back 2 day pairings

I can confirm this as well. Along with another announcement.

You can’t just throw it out there without any specifics! Common Halon, what’s the other one?

Yep, bad deal for commuters!

Oof haha I can’t wait to hear about this one!