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MCDUmanipulator 04-19-2022 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3408615)
This is the right move.

yeah let’s stagnate the airline and increase attrition even more.

CincoDeMayo 04-19-2022 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3408615)
This is the right move.

This is the “right move” when you’re stuck on making bad decisions.


Bankruptcy is the right move when you abuse and max out your credit cards

Rehab is the right move when you sell the car for drugs

Slowing down the operations is the right move when you can’t retain talent and invest in an operation that doesn’t collapse on a rain shower over south Florida

Meep 04-19-2022 11:22 AM

No upgrades and slowing growth…..this will help attrition, haha.

Douglas9 04-19-2022 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by Meep (Post 3408653)
No upgrades and slowing growth…..this will help attrition, haha.

“Keep on Shining”.

JulesWinfield 04-19-2022 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3408631)
This is the “right move” when you’re stuck on making bad decisions.


Bankruptcy is the right move when you abuse and max out your credit cards

Rehab is the right move when you sell the car for drugs

Slowing down the operations is the right move when you can’t retain talent and invest in an operation that doesn’t collapse on a rain shower over south Florida

Clearly, we can't handle the flying we have now, so I don't know what you expect them to do going forward. They obviously didn't plan staffing correctly, and now it is biting them. At this point, we take our lumps and move on. The choice was this, or a meltdown every other week in the summer. I'll take this.

MCDUmanipulator 04-19-2022 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3408699)
Clearly, we can't handle the flying we have now, so I don't know what you expect them to do going forward. They obviously didn't plan staffing correctly, and now it is biting them. At this point, we take our lumps and move on. The choice was this, or a meltdown every other week in the summer. I'll take this.

i don’t know. Meltdowns can be pretty lucrative…

also they blame atc when in reality it’s crew shortages because they refuse to pay us industry average.

CincoDeMayo 04-19-2022 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3408699)
Clearly, we can't handle the flying we have now, so I don't know what you expect them to do going forward. They obviously didn't plan staffing correctly, and now it is biting them. At this point, we take our lumps and move on. The choice was this, or a meltdown every other week in the summer. I'll take this.

Got a shocker for you; we will still have meltdowns this summer.

B200 Hawk 04-19-2022 01:28 PM

So upgrade numbers are still the same and we are scaling back 5% of flying but still doing more flying then ever before in the company’s history? Yet some on here act like it’s the end of the world. APC is such a dramatic bunch.

We are short staffed and could use something enticing to hire pilots. Pay increases aren’t coming…actually a smart proactive move IMO.

MCDUmanipulator 04-19-2022 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by B200 Hawk (Post 3408725)
So upgrade numbers are still the same and we are scaling back 5% of flying but still doing more flying then ever before in the company’s history? Yet some on here act like it’s the end of the world. APC is such a dramatic bunch.

We are short staffed and could use something enticing to hire pilots. Pay increases aren’t coming…actually a smart proactive move IMO.

yeah our awesome 10 a month upgrades. So fantastic. We’ll be pushing 5 years in no time.

Avro85 04-19-2022 04:49 PM

Interest Based Bargaining. Other Management/Union combos have used it to address the issues that need correcting. Usually gets more money to the pilots. That means more in the coffers at Herndon....

If neither party can figure out why new hires are leaving for United before they do one month of reserve.....well.


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