NK/F9 Merger Announced
02-07-2022 | 09:24 AM
#101
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The big win is the fact that to pull this off management MUST get a JCBA. They can’t drag it out for a few years like they normally do, benefitting from pay rates negotiated 5+ years previously. They need to get things done. And in this compels them to come to the table and get a deal promptly. The pilots need to hold out for the best QOL provisions of EACH contract.
02-07-2022 | 09:25 AM
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^^^
Also, this is independent of aircraft type. We get this for 321 or a 320. It's an amazing tool to hustle. Currently, our limitation to maximize this is we can't drop below 50 hours in Flica. With NK's ability to drop to 0, something will have to give on this because THAT combo would be too good to be true.
Also, this is independent of aircraft type. We get this for 321 or a 320. It's an amazing tool to hustle. Currently, our limitation to maximize this is we can't drop below 50 hours in Flica. With NK's ability to drop to 0, something will have to give on this because THAT combo would be too good to be true.
02-07-2022 | 09:31 AM
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Another poster I don’t want on the negotiating team. GIVE UP should not be in anyone’s lexicon. This is the most advantageous period for negotiations ALPA has ever seen. For the love of God, don’t start posting what you think ought to be given up.
02-07-2022 | 09:33 AM
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C’mon man. I’m definitely all about educating those about the company culture and what it’s really like to work as a pilot for said company. What recent merger ended up in this scenario? Especially when the same union represents both pilot groups.
02-07-2022 | 09:33 AM
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Obvious you missed the satire. Base on our historical factor on our pilot group and alpa " what will you give up?". Im with you, we shouldnt give up anything.
02-07-2022 | 09:36 AM
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Doesn’t the RLA have a process to combine contracts. There is also a process for an ISL to go to arbitration. I think if they go full hardball no one votes on anything. Although I think your right they won’t have the leverage.
I think giving the smaller airline the control was calculated in order to try to obtain as much leverage as possible, and not move all F9 pilots onto the spirit contract. ALPA can clearly cost each agreement and know who has the more lucrative one.
I think Atlas at first attempted to go through a combining process with Southern before they hammered out a joint deal.
I think giving the smaller airline the control was calculated in order to try to obtain as much leverage as possible, and not move all F9 pilots onto the spirit contract. ALPA can clearly cost each agreement and know who has the more lucrative one.
I think Atlas at first attempted to go through a combining process with Southern before they hammered out a joint deal.
02-07-2022 | 09:50 AM
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Just my prediction, not negotiation statement: not going to happen. Too many pilots are at NK specifically for that and the ability to drop to zero. Losing either would stimulate a mass exodus even larger than what is already happening.
02-07-2022 | 10:01 AM
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Short answer is no.
Only if the rsv days are part of a reduced credit line (a hybrid line that PBS builds if it has trips left over at the end of a run but can’t get you to the normal credit window, Navblue will add rsv days to your schedule for 4 hours a day to complete your schedule).
All other reserve drops for pilots receiving a regular reserve line are at scheduling’s discretion which is basically always a big fat NO. Someone chime in if they’ve had a different experience.
Only if the rsv days are part of a reduced credit line (a hybrid line that PBS builds if it has trips left over at the end of a run but can’t get you to the normal credit window, Navblue will add rsv days to your schedule for 4 hours a day to complete your schedule).
All other reserve drops for pilots receiving a regular reserve line are at scheduling’s discretion which is basically always a big fat NO. Someone chime in if they’ve had a different experience.
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