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symbian simian 02-12-2022 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3371169)
At a ULCC you can make over $250k a year while only working half the month. Plus you can easily hit the IRS limits on your 401k retiring with millions in the bank. Sounds like a great career to me.

Or you can go to SWA and work 12 days a month and make $300K as an FO (included are NEC, and 5% PS). Or go to a legacy and make more....

CincoDeMayo 02-12-2022 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by FahQ2 (Post 3371318)
Half of the NK pilot group that will be here for the next picket weren’t even on property in 2017. Like it or not it’s a whole different group and the majority will be newer junior pilots. You fly with them, talk to them about how important this is.

And if those of you who were MIA in 2017 want to sit it out again, I’ll catch a flight out to Denver and walk the line with the F9 pilots.


I’ve been more than happy seeing new blood come in this last decade, watering down some of the “legacy Spirit” pilot mentality we had, conflict blinders on and nothing else. And yup, we hired a bunch more, I just hope apathy isn’t contagious like it was in 2017

Proof is in the MF’ing pudding…we will see. Because people were just as loud in 2017 on these same forums and the effort was pathetic unless there was free pizza and beer involved

Aero1900 02-12-2022 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by dualinput (Post 3371189)
Chaos creates cash. Being short and letting the premium flow is the best. Years where we are well staffed are my lowest earning years. The SWA pilots are probably making double what I’m making this year.

Very true. I look forward to Frontier getting short staffed so I can cash in on some more premium trips too.

Aero1900 02-12-2022 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3371326)
Or you can go to SWA and work 12 days a month and make $300K as an FO (included are NEC, and 5% PS). Or go to a legacy and make more....

I read every comment in the end of year salary thread. Awesome stuff.

But have you seen the 737 cockpit? (Just joking... kind of)

Fah2 02-12-2022 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3371329)
I’ve been more than happy seeing new blood come in this last decade, watering down some of the “legacy Spirit” pilot mentality we had, conflict blinders on and nothing else. And yup, we hired a bunch more, I just hope apathy isn’t contagious like it was in 2017

Proof is in the MF’ing pudding…we will see. Because people were just as loud in 2017 on these same forums and the effort was pathetic unless there was free pizza and beer involved


Absolutely GD right.

Halon1211 02-12-2022 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3371326)
Or you can go to SWA and work 12 days a month and make $300K as an FO (included are NEC, and 5% PS). Or go to a legacy and make more....

Go to AA and you can be in one of these videos.

https://youtu.be/KzEJo28LG-Y

Cyio 02-12-2022 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3371326)
Or you can go to SWA and work 12 days a month and make $300K as an FO (included are NEC, and 5% PS). Or go to a legacy and make more....

Sure right now when they are all making 200% every time the jump in the plane. That won’t last.

symbian simian 02-12-2022 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3371333)
I read every comment in the end of year salary thread. Awesome stuff.

But have you seen the 737 cockpit? (Just joking... kind of)

Oh, it's not me sitting in there! But the W2 looks pretty comfortable.

symbian simian 02-12-2022 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3371342)
Sure right now when they are all making 200% every time the jump in the plane. That won’t last.

Nope, based on regular ops. Yeah very senior FO, but you have no idea what 4 weeks of vacation SWA style and a monthly cap as opposed to yearly XY credit can do.

Stayontarget 02-12-2022 12:17 PM

This poll is going to be misleading. You forgot to put the option of how many people now plan on staying as a result of the merger.

That would be my choice. I had entertained the idea of leaving to AA before, in particular after ORD closure, but now? No way. It’s true AA has a massive amount of retirements, but they also have a massive amount of debt and just recorded almost a billion in losses in one quarter alone. Frontier (Indigo) just announced the largest aircraft order in history and a few months later bought into an airline 150% larger than itself. Throw in some inflation, fuel prices, and interest rate hikes, maybe even war. Choose very carefully. Agreed SWA is a much safer bet but a quick scan through their pages on this forum and it’s easy to see it’s not all roses over there either. Plenty of 5-6 year FOs leaving on to the legacies there too or looking out with envious eyes. This industry is all about timing and luck.


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