JCBA during a recession.
 

With all indicators pointing to a impending recession, does anybody want to guess what contract negotiations with the new Spirit and Frontier pilot group will look like during a recession?

Will management try to use that as an excuse to low ball our pay rates while they still boast how we are “recession proof”?

Or will they recognize that they need pilots here and try to keep wages and benefits competitive.

I wouldn't jump to conclusions on f9 just yet...something tells me B6 isn't done playing hardball...either way I think attrition and demand will still be "strong". It will however be a great tool for whoever is managing whatever airline to drag feet and pretend there's no problems

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B6 is done. They can keep trying but he board clearly spoke. And if they somehow accomplish a hostile bid the government will squash it. F9 is our dancing partner, And I’m very thankful for that. Negotiations will be a fight but they always are. Being the Nations 5th largest airline and attrition being what it is, we can, and should score nothing less than a great contract.

Frontier management (Franke) will play the hardest of hardball regardless of the economic climate. It’s going to be a fight. I’ve said it a few times, Spirit pilots need to get off their butts in this fight and join their F9 counterparts and fight for a JCBA worth having. Apathy will not get it done.

What in God's name are you trying to say?

Whatever you say brother.. can't wait to face an interrogation from the chief pilots office because we block out late...and than again the next week for calling in sick...be careful what you wish for...it's out of our hands at this point and and I want what's best for the guys that fly the yellow planes. But I'm certainly not "thankful" that our "dance" is chaperoned by Bill Franke

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Exactly! Filler…

I don’t call out sick unless I’m sick. So not worried about that. Know what I’m worried about ? After gate divestitures, and SLI, getting absolutely slaughtered seniority wise. Highly unlikely my QOL would even be in the same stratosphere as it is now with a B6 hookup. I think, as many do , the F9 marriage will be much more seamless and more advantageous long term. I’d suggest You be careful what you wish for. Getting absorbed by B6 could be a huge mess. I’d rather grow organically but I’m thrilled that F9 Is the choice of the 2. And if the merger is such a bad idea then why does B6 wanna kill it so bad.

Over 400 spirit pilots went on strike during the deepest recession since the 30s for a contract against indigo. Hopefully the combined pilot group will have the balls to do the same if necessary.

So ALPA merger language only applies to F9 not B6...got it...if I were a better I'd guess you weren't here in 2010...God help us all

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