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CincoDeMayo 05-18-2022 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by BLMPilot (Post 3425605)
Let me guess, cultural appropriation is your hobby? You better bet I’m triggered like a person south side ORD in summer on an early Sunday morning.

Cultural appropriation? Nah, I just lead with my identity like you do. Fight the man ✊🏽

BLMPilot 05-18-2022 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3425610)
Cultural appropriation? Nah, I just lead with my identity like you do. Fight the man ✊🏽

There you go again with fight the ‘man’.

threeighteen 05-18-2022 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by BeatNavy (Post 3425412)
Wait a second. Do you not remember last round of negotiations for F9/NK? Didn’t frontier and spirit both get new CBAs after UAL/AAL/DAL last round? Frontier pilots basically just got spirit wages. And Spirit went below everyone else who had negotiated before them while in an increasing wage, pilot’s market landscape. But for some reason you think you would start with Big 3 rates as your baseline this time around in section 6? Good luck with that.

and to be clear I’m not saying you shouldn’t try to one up legacies…i am just trying to put some recent negotiating context into your post, which makes it seem like you think UAL+$1 is achievable for a ULCC and that your NC has that in the bag. That’s the point to which I’d say Ted/Biffle/Franke/whatever other puppet masters there are, won’t have any of that.

Plus Spirit and Frontier also gave up A LOT to get their respective contracts last round (line bidding dumped in favor of PBS, reserve rules at Spirit gutted, etc). The companies probably made money on those contracts.

dera 05-18-2022 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3425566)
lol I always thought the word “employee” was sufficient


this country and it’s euphemisms.

A traffic circle device=roundabout

preheat= Heat

Face Coverings= Mask

A medical center=Hospital

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCo0hSFAWOc

BeatNavy 05-18-2022 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3425566)
lol I always thought the word “employee” was sufficient


Don’t worry. Once you get your blue indoctrination class you’ll learn blue speak:
employees = crewmembers
stews = inflight
pilots = flight ops
gate agents = airport operations (AO)
bag throwers = ground operations (GO)
Coach = core
business class = mint
profit sharing = blue math tricks that equal 0.0%, 0.2% on a good year.
CBA = this document that may or may not be honored
B6ALPA = this organization that you pay a lot of money to that may or may not have your back, depending on their own personal (and national’s) interests.
LOA = a document that you may or may not get a vote on that is likely codifying a giveaway of the above CBA document, but even if you get a vote, you’ll be part of the weakest/low expectation pilot group in the majors, so there’s a good chance you’re giving something away if it makes it to a vote.

welcome aboard if it happens!

dualinput 05-18-2022 06:42 PM

The new line is United. Now let’s close the thread before it gets used against us in mediation

Halon1211 05-18-2022 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3425624)


this one’s pretty good too.

https://youtu.be/46fOtLfYC4Q

BlueWater 05-19-2022 03:55 PM

Forbes has the info.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed/2022/05/19/spirit-airlines-pilots-want-to-know-is-the-airline-eyeing-flat-pay-for-five-years/?sh=7164e5961a83

fumeevented 05-19-2022 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by BLMPilot (Post 3425611)
There you go again with fight the ‘man’.

No way this dude isn't a troll.... Although I did hear about a guy who wore his "blm" TM mask in the flight deck for an entire 4 day. The guy I was talking to still has no idea what he looks like.

Anyway, this thread is about management saying they don't plan on paying us. I'm confused about the context. Were they saying they don't plan on increasing our pay before a merger, which would make sense, or just in general?

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Excargodog 05-19-2022 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by fumeevented (Post 3426397)
No way this dude isn't a troll.... Although I did hear about a guy who wore his "blm" TM mask in the flight deck for an entire 4 day. The guy I was talking to still has no idea what he looks like.

Anyway, this thread is about management saying they don't plan on paying us. I'm confused about the context. Were they saying they don't plan on increasing our pay before a merger, which would make sense, or just in general?

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It was a five year business projection.


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