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Old 06-27-2022 | 08:31 AM
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Like anything there’s more to the story. Alpa pulled an loa that allowed pilots to pick up opentime with a phone call to crew scheduling after the contractual 930 day prior. Either side could withdraw with 2 weeks notice. Should have been pulled 2 years earlier but alpa didn’t want to be viewed as negotiating in bad faith potentially delaying mediated talks. Pulling vac was retaliatory. The data didn’t support the need to do it.

We were able to mitigate some of the damage with pilots stepping up and picking up trips from pilots that lost vacation through the trade board.

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Old 06-27-2022 | 09:11 AM
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I don’t really feel like pulling out the contract but we added some language that basically makes it more difficult and expensive for them to do it. They still can though. A good mitigation strategy is actually take your summer vacation and buy non refundable everything. Makes it even more expensive for them to pull it.
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Old 06-27-2022 | 05:29 PM
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Anyone has spirit mandatory retirement list?
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Old 06-27-2022 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Airwillystyle
Anyone has spirit mandatory retirement list?
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Old 06-27-2022 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Airwillystyle
Anyone has spirit mandatory retirement list?
SPA-MEC website has numbers of retirements each year
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Old 06-27-2022 | 05:52 PM
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Well I tried uploading an image of it, its not working very well tho.

Year Retirements
2022 - 6
2024 - 6
2025 - 27
2026 - 28
2027 - 41
2028 - 30
2029 - 32
2030 - 43
2031 - 47
2032 - 43
2033 - 46
2034 - 37
2035 - 45
2036 - 44
2037 - 50
2038 - 46
2039 - 37
2040 - 46
2041 - 42
2042 - 55
2043 - 51
2044 - 58
2045 - 69
2046 - 61
2047 - 72
2048 - 61
2049 - 40
2050 - 45
2051 - 29
2052 - 19
2053 - 10
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Old 06-27-2022 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Well I tried uploading an image of it, its not working very well tho.

Year Retirements
2022 - 6
2024 - 6
2025 - 27
2026 - 28
2027 - 41
2028 - 30
2029 - 32
2030 - 43
2031 - 47
2032 - 43
2033 - 46
2034 - 37
2035 - 45
2036 - 44
2037 - 50
2038 - 46
2039 - 37
2040 - 46
2041 - 42
2042 - 55
2043 - 51
2044 - 58
2045 - 69
2046 - 61
2047 - 72
2048 - 61
2049 - 40
2050 - 45
2051 - 29
2052 - 19
2053 - 10
Nobody in 23? That should solve all the attrition woes!
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Old 06-27-2022 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Stayontarget
Nobody in 23? That should solve all the attrition woes!
yea 2023 is missing its showing 21 retirements in 2023
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Old 06-27-2022 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
yea 2023 is missing its showing 21 retirements in 2023
Hopefully the market has made a miraculous recovery for them by that time.
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Old 06-28-2022 | 05:45 PM
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I'm surprised that no one is talking about the likelihood of a major slow down in progression if the B6 deal happens. I get we don't like the haunting experience of F9's management when they were here, or Barry's stupid comment about a pilot surplus (posturing), but an F9 merger has significantly more airplanes and growth ahead than does a B6 merger. Obviously we need to fix the attrition problem (which any idiot understands cannot continue if we are to meet our growth plans..or any growth) but aside from that anyone with 10 or more years left will likely see much better options and a better overall business model with the F9 merger.

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