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Lincoln Osiris 07-28-2022 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3468852)
it let me read it the second time I clicked onto it.

cool story, but still a paywall

8JRMfortheyear 07-28-2022 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot (Post 3468836)
When UAL and CAL merged, new management flew the sides as separate airlines and grew the cheaper CAL side of the airline. I expect that to happen here as well. JB Management didn’t buy a ULCC to make their costs higher.

good point, maybe badalza will come back.

LoopsMcDoops 07-28-2022 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3468856)
^^^The very first post on here.


“ we’re sipping that blue juice and goin’ places”

-Halon One2One1

I stand by my rhetoric! 😂

SaintNick 07-28-2022 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot (Post 3468832)
JB management will not want you to have a new contract. They like having a lower paid pilot group. They will grow the Spirit side of the airline and do everything they can to not allow the two groups to merge, including not negotiating a contract which is the first step.

Don’t expect a new contract anytime soon. The good news is the Spirit side of B6 will grow as much as management can let it and the legacy JB side not so much.

🙄 yes let’s spend 4bil just to run another airline that will have a hard time retaining pilots…

Halon1211 07-28-2022 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3468863)
cool story, but still a paywall


okay….so….

povertyeagle 07-28-2022 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot (Post 3468832)
JB management will not want you to have a new contract. They like having a lower paid pilot group. They will grow the Spirit side of the airline and do everything they can to not allow the two groups to merge, including not negotiating a contract which is the first step.

Don’t expect a new contract anytime soon. The good news is the Spirit side of B6 will grow as much as management can let it and the legacy JB side not so much.

Do you intentionally not pay attention?

B6's pilot contract says any merger must have a CBA in 6 months or they pay B6 pilots substantial penalties.
The Merger language says they have to have a merger close by December or it pays penalties to the NK shareholders.

But yeah, I'm sure B6 management will drag it out to save a few pennies on spirit pilots.

RiddleEagle18 07-28-2022 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by povertyeagle (Post 3468960)
Do you intentionally not pay attention?

B6's pilot contract says any merger must have a CBA in 6 months or they pay B6 pilots substantial penalties.
The Merger language says they have to have a merger close by December or it pays penalties to the NK shareholders.

But yeah, I'm sure B6 management will drag it out to save a few pennies on spirit pilots.

say what now?

ProPilotBlue 07-28-2022 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 3468994)
say what now?

I don't see that language anywhere, so I don't know what he's talking about.

Boomer 07-28-2022 07:12 PM

JetBlue CBA 1.E.2

A single collective bargaining agreement will be negotiated by the pilot
groups and the Companies subject to the transaction or their Successor.
While such negotiations are ongoing and until a Joint Collective
Bargaining Agreement is ratified the status quo as specified in the agree-
ment(s) of the impacted pilot group(s) will apply. Each pre-merger carrier
shall keep separate flight operations of the carriers and will not transfer
or interchange pilots or aircraft between the carriers unless otherwise
negotiated and agreed to by the Association, and shall ensure that all
Company aircraft on hand or on order at the time of the transaction are
operated only by JetBlue Pilots. This will not prohibit the carrier from
obtaining a single operating certificate.

Trylabyte 07-29-2022 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by thecunningone (Post 3468778)
Anybody know if the NK pilots on the Bus will still be on the bus once the merger happens? Seems like it wouldn't make sense to send a bunch of bus pilots back to get typed/trained on a different aircraft. I know the bus pays the highest at JB

There's a whole bunch of inbound buses on the way. Who do you think is supposed to push the buttons on them. Jeez man, think


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