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LoopsMcDoops 07-28-2022 02:47 AM

It's official - JB buying us.
 
Now I can delete my apps with the legacies. Let's go get a dope contract.

RiddleEagle18 07-28-2022 03:03 AM


Originally Posted by LoopsMcDoops (Post 3468376)
Now I can delete my apps with the legacies. Let's go get a dope contract.


Hell ya! No better time and we hold a ton of leverage!

FlippingCups 07-28-2022 03:09 AM

Ted just said this is a great deal for shareholders and team members.... its funny how people think Ted lost, he's walking away with a 8 figure no stock, straight cash homie deal! I think Ted won! Money talks.. Enjoy your golden parachute Ted, good riddance.

putzin 07-28-2022 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by FlippingCups (Post 3468383)
Ted just said this is a great deal for shareholders and team members.... its funny how people think Ted lost, he's walking away with a 8 figure no stock, straight cash homie deal! I think Ted won! Money talks.. Enjoy your golden parachute Ted, good riddance.

+1
And other stuff

turbojet28 07-28-2022 03:21 AM

It will be interesting to see how good of a deal the $33.50/share looks to the Spirit stockholders when the deal actually closes down the line in the first half of 2024. That’s a long time from now.

flyingmonkeys 07-28-2022 03:44 AM


Originally Posted by turbojet28 (Post 3468387)
It will be interesting to see how good of a deal the $33.50/share looks to the Spirit stockholders when the deal actually closes down the line in the first half of 2024. That’s a long time from now.

I don’t think this will be an issue. Spirit stock has been getting a boost ever since the B6 offer has been on the table. If it wasn’t for B6 deal spirit stock would probably be trading in the mid to high teens right now

Bluedriver 07-28-2022 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by turbojet28 (Post 3468387)
It will be interesting to see how good of a deal the $33.50/share looks to the Spirit stockholders when the deal actually closes down the line in the first half of 2024. That’s a long time from now.

They said at the latest first half 2024. But it's a gamble, and it was the shareholders gamble to make.

RiddleEagle18 07-28-2022 04:29 AM

The offer also increases by 65 cents if the merger isn’t finished by December 2023.


it’s in the fine print of the merger announcement on the JB investor relations page.

  • JetBlue will acquire Spirit for $33.50 to up to $34.15 per share in cash, depending on the timing of closing, including 1) an accelerated prepayment of $2.50 per share in cash, payable promptly after Spirit’s stockholders approve the transaction, and 2) a ticking fee prepayment of $0.10 per share per month between January 2023 and the consummation or termination of the transaction.
    • In the event the transaction is consummated on or before December 2023, the transaction consideration will be $33.50 per share, increasing over time to up to $34.15 per share, in the event the transaction is consummated at the outside date in July 2024.
    • The transaction consideration of $33.50per share implies an aggregate fully diluted equity value of approximately $3.8 billion3 and an adjusted enterprise value of $7.6 billion4.”

CincoDeMayo 07-28-2022 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by flyingmonkeys (Post 3468394)
I don’t think this will be an issue. Spirit stock has been getting a boost ever since the B6 offer has been on the table. If it wasn’t for B6 deal spirit stock would probably be trading in the mid to high teens right now

Exactly. It doesn’t matter the price because the price from this point on is based on the JBLU purchase, so totally different than if it remained a stand alone

Halon1211 07-28-2022 05:02 AM

Does anyone know if this new agreement included a golden parachute for TC and the gang, and if so how much?

Dewey299 07-28-2022 05:04 AM

Will Spirit be hiring pilots still or will JetBlue start having a say on the hiring?

RiddleEagle18 07-28-2022 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by Dewey299 (Post 3468436)
Will Spirit be hiring pilots still or will JetBlue start having a say on the hiring?


Operate as separate companies until the merger is approved by the DOJ.


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MCDUmanipulator 07-28-2022 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by Dewey299 (Post 3468436)
Will Spirit be hiring pilots still or will JetBlue start having a say on the hiring?

We both have to run our own show for at least another show. Bet spirit does all their own hiring pretty much up until the merger closes

Steelers 07-28-2022 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3468434)
Does anyone know if this new agreement included a golden parachute for TC and the gang, and if so how much?


Has to be some carrot to keep him running NK while we wait for approval.

CincoDeMayo 07-28-2022 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by Steelers (Post 3468439)
Has to be some carrot to keep him running NK while we wait for approval.

There is. They already qualified for half of the retention bonus. They get another next year.

CRJdriver2017 07-28-2022 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by LoopsMcDoops (Post 3468376)
Now I can delete my apps with the legacies. Let's go get a dope contract.

I couldn’t tell if you were being sarcastic or not. Why would you delete legacy apps?

LoopsMcDoops 07-28-2022 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by CRJdriver2017 (Post 3468446)
I couldn’t tell if you were being sarcastic or not. Why would you delete legacy apps?

Because I absolutely refused to work for Frontier and their management. Tbings have changed. Losing my base, seat, and seniority isn't do appealing now. Real talk.

JoeFever1 07-28-2022 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by CRJdriver2017 (Post 3468446)
I couldn’t tell if you were being sarcastic or not. Why would you delete legacy apps?

Didn’t you hear? He’s officially at a legacy now…

Directautogroup 07-28-2022 05:34 AM

Goodbye Ted. Hopefully Bendo not far behind you.

Bluedriver 07-28-2022 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 3468470)
Per JetBlue’s current Scope section, we can not combine operations until we have voted in a JCBA. In other words, for the first (and last) time in most of our careers, the company needs a new CBA more than we do.

Every week that the companies are forced to maintain separate operations is millions of dollars of lost profits. Keep this in mind when reaching out to your reps and negotiating committee. Our two pilot groups will never have this kind of bargaining leverage again.

He's not wrong...

Boomer 07-28-2022 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 3468437)
Operate as separate companies until the merger is approved by the DOJ.

Per JetBlue’s current Scope section, we can not combine operations until we have voted in a JCBA. In other words, for the first (and last) time in most of our careers, the company needs a new CBA more than we do.

Every week that the companies are forced to maintain separate operations is millions of dollars of lost profits. Keep this in mind when reaching out to your reps and negotiating committee. Our two pilot groups will never have this kind of bargaining leverage again.

IWalkJun12 07-28-2022 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 3468481)
Per JetBlue’s current Scope section, we can not combine operations until we have voted in a JCBA. In other words, for the first (and last) time in most of our careers, the company needs a new CBA more than we do.

Every week that the companies are forced to maintain separate operations is millions of dollars of lost profits. Keep this in mind when reaching out to your reps and negotiating committee. Our two pilot groups will never have this kind of bargaining leverage again.


next to a strike, this is the most leverage we will ever have.

Bluedriver 07-28-2022 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by IWalkJun12 (Post 3468485)
next to a strike, this is the most leverage we will ever have.

...Hats now!

BeatNavy 07-28-2022 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by JoeFever1 (Post 3468454)
Didn’t you hear? He’s officially at a legacy now…

He works at a company that conducted interstate commerce prior to deregulation? Unless B6 merges with a big 3 carrier or AS or HA and ends up on their operating certificate, it won’t ever be a “legacy,” which only denotes a carrier that fits that one singular definition.

Fah2 07-28-2022 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by BeatNavy (Post 3468489)
He works at a company that conducted interstate commerce prior to deregulation? Unless B6 merges with a big 3 carrier or AS or HA and ends up on their operating certificate, it won’t ever be a “legacy,” which only denotes a carrier that fits that one singular definition.

Denying that he can identify as working for a legacy is hate speech and a good way to get yourself removed from the platform. Legacy is a spectrum, but not one that has room for toxicity and intolerance.

Here at the new Jet Blue, we welcome legacy persons of companies with limited pre-degregulation interstate commerce.

Bluedriver 07-28-2022 07:02 AM

https://youtu.be/Ku57tmdHIhc
Robin and TC interview.

Boomer 07-28-2022 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by IWalkJun12 (Post 3468485)
next to a strike, this is the most leverage we will ever have.

Except… with a strike, the paychecks stop.

When you’re squeezing management for an industry-leading JCBA, the paychecks keep rolling in!

Bluedriver 07-28-2022 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by FahQ2 (Post 3468495)
Denying that he can identify as working for a legacy is hate speech and a good way to get yourself removed from the platform. Legacy is a spectrum, but not one that has room for toxicity and intolerance.

Here at the new Jet Blue, we welcome legacy persons of companies with limited pre-degregulation interstate commerce.

Lesson 2 on JB speak: JetBlue is one word. Normally the J and B are capitalized within a single word.

​​​​​​😁

Crjdeuce 07-28-2022 07:16 AM

With the JetBlue purchase what happens to the planned reduction of DTW DFW and ORD

Directautogroup 07-28-2022 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3468499)
https://youtu.be/Ku57tmdHIhc
Robin and TC interview.

Wow. Ted comes off as a beaten man. Robyn disagrees right off the bat with him about "twists and turns." On a follow up question, Ted deflects right to Robyn for answering. Ted not doing so well without the teleprompter with the "umms." Overall, another terrible performance by our CEO.

Trylabyte 07-28-2022 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Directautogroup (Post 3468511)
Wow. Ted comes off as a beaten man. Robyn disagrees right off the bat with him about "twists and turns." On a follow up question, Ted deflects right to Robyn for answering. Ted not doing so well without the teleprompter with the "umms." Overall, another terrible performance by our CEO.

He really is just a scumbag.

avi8orco 07-28-2022 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3468487)
...Hats now!

no…white shirts.

You spirit guys will never know how good you have it until you need to wear your beat up, old blue shirts because the company that supplies your uniforms, who also is Taco Bell’s supplier (let that sink in and yes, some of our guys were mailed Taco Bell uniforms), has them back ordered for a year and is the only place you can get them.

I’d do anything to be able to walk into any local FBO pilot shop or some flight school and be able to walk out with a uniform shirt.

Bluedriver 07-28-2022 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by avi8orco (Post 3468543)
no…white shirts.

You spirit guys will never know how good you have it until you need to wear your beat up, old blue shirts because the company that supplies your uniforms, who also is Taco Bell’s supplier (let that sink in and yes, some of our guys were mailed Taco Bell uniforms), has them back ordered for a year and is the only place you can get them.

I’d do anything to be able to walk into any local FBO pilot shop or some flight school and be able to walk out with a uniform shirt.

I don't doubt your experience, but I've yet to have a problem getting shirts. Also haven't waited until the last second though. Maybe your size is more of an issue or I just ordered at the right time.

whairdidhugo 07-28-2022 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3468499)
https://youtu.be/Ku57tmdHIhc
Robin and TC interview.

An absolute clown, again. He's got the executive chops of Ronald McDonald.

Good riddance.

Cyio 07-28-2022 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by whairdidhugo (Post 3468557)
An absolute clown, again. He's got the executive chops of Ronald McDonald.

Good riddance.

Yeah his comments were pretty abrasive and have come back to haunt him. Guess it’s a good lesson to not burn down the bridge before you have crossed it.

Lakeaffect 07-28-2022 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3468499)
https://youtu.be/Ku57tmdHIhc
Robin and TC interview.

That was kind of awesome. I can’t believe they actually asked Ted tough questions and made him eat his words. Thought there would be a save face, but no.

flyingmonkeys 07-28-2022 08:25 AM

Really pathetic. That interview had the feel of a man that knows his days are numbered.

Directautogroup 07-28-2022 08:35 AM

He is on the phone with Frontier for a CFO position or similar. Hopefully he takes the rest of these clowns with him after the needless drama they put the shareholders and employees through.

afterburn81 07-28-2022 08:48 AM

Lot of guru pilots on here that had a second career in airline merger etc.

A serious question.

We know now that JB can rest assured they have a dance partner and NK management has no obligation to ensure the viability of the Spirit Airlines brand. Is it safe to say: until what was Spirit Airlines is absorbed by JetBlue Airways and a JCBA has been settled, all new aircraft that were to be put into the Spirit system will now be painted in JB colors and put into the JB network? No new routes or means to improving the customer service experience of Spirit Airlines should be expected since there’s no reason to build the brand.

How does that effect us as pilots of NK for the next couple of years? Realistically it’s been nice to experience real organic growth and new aircraft each month.

NK hires because of attrition. But it also has been hiring substantially to keep up with growth as well. Upgrades will most likely stop until since Spirit Airlines will be, from our perspective, winding down until a JCBA is reached.

Knowing that these regulatory processes take quite some time, I’d imagine JB will be whittling a way at the NK, until there’s very little
left. So as to show the DOJ that there’s nothing to save by opposing the merge. Another not so fun thing for us.

To those in the know, (seems to be quite a few of you) please tell me something that will make the next couple of years less painful for us.

JulesWinfield 07-28-2022 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by afterburn81 (Post 3468584)
Lot of guru pilots on here that had a second career in airline merger etc.

A serious question.

We know now that JB can rest assured they have a dance partner and NK management has no obligation to ensure the viability of the Spirit Airlines brand. Is it safe to say: until what was Spirit Airlines is absorbed by JetBlue Airways and a JCBA has been settled, all new aircraft that were to be put into the Spirit system will now be painted in JB colors and put into the JB network? No new routes or means to improving the customer service experience of Spirit Airlines should be expected since there’s no reason to build the brand.

How does that effect us as pilots of NK for the next couple of years? Realistically it’s been nice to experience real organic growth and new aircraft each month.

NK hires because of attrition. But it also has been hiring substantially to keep up with growth as well. Upgrades will most likely stop until since Spirit Airlines will be, from our perspective, winding down until a JCBA is reached.

Knowing that these regulatory processes take quite some time, I’d imagine JB will be whittling a way at the NK, until there’s very little
left. So as to show the DOJ that there’s nothing to save by opposing the merge. Another not so fun thing for us.

To those in the know, (seems to be quite a few of you) please tell me something that will make the next couple of years less painful for us.

Until the merger is complete, everything will remain separate. Any aircraft coming to Spirit will continue to come to Spirit. Spirit still needs to operate a viable company. Remember, there are still no guarantees this thing goes through until it does, and Spirit is a publicly traded company.


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