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gzsg 12-09-2022 10:51 AM

Pilot Shortage Update
 
JetBlue has less than 300 applications.

Frontier less than 10, yes 10.

I have a friend who applied at Spirit with 1500 hours in a 172 with no college. Called an hour after applying and was hired.

By June 2023 United, American, Southwest and Delta will be hiring pilots with no college and 1500 hours in a single engine aircraft.

There is just no reason to accept less than the Alaska hourly rates.

Sometimes you have to save management from themselves.

Every airline pays the same for tires, for landing fees, for jet fuel, etc.

The Spirit pilots deserve the Alaska rates or better.

It’s just business.

JMHO

new guy 12-09-2022 11:06 AM

Sir, I'm not sure where the frontier numbers come from. I personally know 30+ people that have applied there after the announcement of the RTP. And considering they had longer lines than southwest, delta, American, or united at RTAG, that's really hard to believe.

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BobbyLeeSwagger 12-09-2022 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 3547686)
JetBlue has less than 300 applications.

Frontier less than 10, yes 10.

I have a friend who applied at Spirit with 1500 hours in a 172 with no college. Called an hour after applying and was hired.

By June 2023 United, American, Southwest and Delta will be hiring pilots with no college and 1500 hours in a single engine aircraft.

There is just no reason to accept less than the Alaska hourly rates.

Sometimes you have to save management from themselves.

Every airline pays the same for tires, for landing fees, for jet fuel, etc.

The Spirit pilots deserve the Alaska rates or better.

It’s just business.

JMHO

Source??

Fllr

citationxtango 12-09-2022 11:11 AM

Where are you getting these numbers from? Seems very low, even given the state of things currently...

APCHCLIMB 12-09-2022 11:51 AM

Making sh#t up to make yourselves feel better about your life decisions I see.

Here’s a better idea, don’t embarrass yourselves by voting in something below your worth.

dualinput 12-09-2022 12:26 PM

Alaska is old news. It’s delta. Get on board

Alpiner 12-09-2022 12:51 PM

I’m impressed you seem to know how many applications are on file at multiple airlines. I have no idea how many are on file at the one I work for

NotMrNiceGuy 12-09-2022 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3547705)
Source??

Fllr

Verified through three separate sources:

Ben Dover (Frontier)
Mike Oxlong (Spirit)
Ho Li Fuq (Asiana)

CincoDeMayo 12-09-2022 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by NotMrNiceGuy (Post 3548006)
Verified through three separate sources:

Ben Dover (Frontier)
Mike Oxlong (Spirit)
Ho Li Fuq (Asiana)

Did Mike Hunt not give his opinion?

BoilerWings 12-09-2022 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 3547686)
JetBlue has less than 300 applications.

Frontier less than 10, yes 10.

I have a friend who applied at Spirit with 1500 hours in a 172 with no college. Called an hour after applying and was hired.

By June 2023 United, American, Southwest and Delta will be hiring pilots with no college and 1500 hours in a single engine aircraft.

There is just no reason to accept less than the Alaska hourly rates.

Sometimes you have to save management from themselves.

Every airline pays the same for tires, for landing fees, for jet fuel, etc.

The Spirit pilots deserve the Alaska rates or better.

It’s just business.

JMHO

False. The airlines do not pay the same rates for fuel, tires, landing fees, etc. They have contracts for all those things, through different vendors, signed at different times, and at different volumes.

I agree with your point that Spirit pilots need better. But, your supporting material is wildly false.


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