I disagree. And to set the record straight, I reversed my feelings on this after the B6 TA got negotiated with a catch-up provision. I think that there is more that can be squeezed out this time even with a potential JCBA looming and now will be a ‘no’ vote because the JCBA can’t be depended upon before it actually passes DOJ muster. Now having said that, my no vote without a catch-up provision really is more about hedging the bet against DOJ disapproval than about believing this is a ‘turd’ because I think the NC actually did a pretty good job with the marching orders they were given, it’s just that the successes scored by B6 and DA have sort of changed the strategic outlook. I think we now have the ability to insist on a catch-up provision so we won’t be eternally trapped in lag by one contract cycle if the merger/acquisition falls through. It’ll also make us less attractive to Franke if that happens.

But other people are going to make other rational choices, some because they actually don’t plan on sticking around long enough to benefit. One can hardly expect someone who already has a legacy CJO and anticipates a class date 3 months out to vote to reenter negotiations rather than take a 1 Jan raise. Other people will make rational decisions to vote yes for other reasons. I’m now hoping the “No” voters prevail, but certainly don’t believe those who vote yes are weak or fearful or even uninformed. Some are just more comfortable with the proverbial “bird in hand…”. That’s not bad, just a different value judgment than mine.

It takes all kinds to make a world.

I feel the same way. Hoping for a “no”, but can’t fault those that vote yes. Not everyone has the same level of risk tolerance. To each their own.

This logic doesn’t add up. Keeping first year pay lower to bring everyone else up still isn’t industry standard. Attrition will also continue to be bad until newer peeps are offered a reason to stay. Being paid better than current contract rates.

I know you disagree, but I’ve never seen a more emotional group of people than the “no” voters in this forum

Compared to what exactly?

His very recent CFI job

Glad im not the only one. First time in a decade that I felt like I was back at the regionals. Between weak pilots and draconian management , B6 can't come fast enough.

Regular APC users lol

He obviously hasn't seen his company's financials.

Lol yeah, no

I'm curious, have you? My understanding is the people who have are under a nondisclosure.

This deal represents $463 million, if we are in such financial dire straits this deal would not have even come to light. The difference to bring us to parity with JB will not make a difference in the company's financial standing. This deal, in it's current form will do nothing to curb our attrition and entice prospective pilots to come here. I'm certain our attrition will greatly accelerate, and any prospective pilot looking to come here would be better served to join JB for both better SLI and higher pay right off the bat. The only pilots that will join are those that are unemployable elsewhere or those looking for the type to move on to a legacy. If this passes, we will continue to be a sinking ship, and if it doesn't, and management chooses not to engage we again continue to loose pilots and attract new one's which will add to our inefficiency and utilization of the current fleet.