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FlyGuy2002 01-18-2023 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by onedolla (Post 3574415)
We get it, you like the TA. Give it a rest.

we like it . She doesn’t . She gives it a rest. And I will too. And by we I mean 70%.

CincoDeMayo 01-18-2023 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002 (Post 3574416)
we like it . She doesn’t . She gives it a rest. And I will too. And by we I mean 70%.

I like it. I like money for nothing. Glad 70% of us are fans of free money too.

Tranquility 01-18-2023 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3574422)
I like it. I like money for nothing. Glad 70% of us are fans of free money too.

It’s not money for nothing…. The union gave up potential leverage if the merger fails. When I saw that in Frontier’s contract, I’m like, why the hell would someone agree to that?! And yet, here we are…. I pray the merger closes, and we can kick Ted and Bendo, and all the like to the curb! If it doesn’t, we’re ****ed on sooooo many levels….

SpeedBrakes 01-18-2023 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 3574431)
It’s not money for nothing…. The union gave up potential leverage if the merger fails. When I saw that in Frontier’s contract, I’m like, why the hell would someone agree to that?! And yet, here we are…. I pray the merger closes, and we can kick Ted and Bendo, and all the like to the curb! If it doesn’t, we’re ****ed on sooooo many levels….

Don’t mind Cinco. He’s a “yes vote thumper” and clueless given his comment about not giving up anything. Yet another uninformed voter, seems to be a lot of them here

Given the amount of time he spends on here and his post count on here you would think he would be in the know……

CincoDeMayo 01-18-2023 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes (Post 3574433)
Don’t mind Cinco. He’s a “yes vote thumper” and clueless given his comment about not giving up anything. Yet another uninformed voter, seems to be a lot of them here

Given the amount of time he spends on here and his post count on here you would think he would be in the know……

You still screaming at the heavens? Nobody is listening my man, nobody.

70% of us are “yes vote” thumpers, in case you forgot.

baseball3792 01-18-2023 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3574438)
You still screaming at the heavens? Nobody is listening my man, nobody.

70% of us are “yes vote” thumpers, in case you forgot.

On the one hand, he’s saying we can’t even fill classes with the new TA. On the other, he’s saying we gave away all leverage with new hires. It makes zero sense to me. I think we took free money when it was offered, with the added bonus of it not being enough to stem attrition or fill classes, maintaining leverage. Only time will tell!

Noisecanceller 01-18-2023 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 3574431)
It’s not money for nothing…. The union gave up potential leverage if the merger fails. When I saw that in Frontier’s contract, I’m like, why the hell would someone agree to that?! And yet, here we are…. I pray the merger closes, and we can kick Ted and Bendo, and all the like to the curb! If it doesn’t, we’re ****ed on sooooo many levels….

I 100% agree with you and I voted yes.

I had to think about what the odds are the merger closes. I think it’s high. I had to think about what the odds were that spirit comes back to the table in short order and if they do what their offer would be. I was back and forth on that one. I had to think about what the odds are of the JetBlue TA passing with their legacy snap up language and what the odds are of that language carrying into a JCBA.

After all of that and playing the odds I felt a yes vote was the best choice. If the merger doesn’t close though yes we gave away a ton of leverage and are screwed in more ways than one. Spirit will no go it alone. Frontier will come back for their “second bite of the apple”. In that case I’m out of here.

Excargodog 01-18-2023 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3574528)
I 100% agree with you and I voted yes.

I had to think about what the odds are the merger closes. I think it’s high. I had to think about what the odds were that spirit comes back to the table in short order and if they do what their offer would be. I was back and forth on that one. I had to think about what the odds are of the JetBlue TA passing with their legacy snap up language and what the odds are of that language carrying into a JCBA.

After all of that and playing the odds I felt a yes vote was the best choice. If the merger doesn’t close though yes we gave away a ton of leverage and are screwed in more ways than one. Spirit will no go it alone. Frontier will come back for their “second bite of the apple”. In that case I’m out of here.

If the merger (buy out really) doesn’t happen and we wind up being bought by Frontier we will be DAMN GLAD this passed. It’ll at least keep us going until we can all get out of here.

But like the altitude above you, the runway behind you, the fuel you’ve already burned, etc., debate or rancor is irrelevant because this is now a done deal. Carping at one another no matter which side you were on is pretty fruitless, stupid, and unprofessional. Time to get unified for a JCBA, whoever it is with, and/or work on your apps for someplace you’d rather be. That would at least be a productive use of your time.

Halon1211 01-18-2023 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes (Post 3574398)
only 10 new hires out of the 28 they wanted showed up to class on Monday.

No body wants to come here with this TA……

lol and to think that some people here thought that this recently past TA would some how make us loose our leverage…

Poppachubby 01-18-2023 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes (Post 3574433)

Given the amount of time he spends on here and his post count on here you would think he would be in the know……

So a persons "in the know" status is based on how much time they spend on APC.............got it!


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