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sioux8ships 01-31-2023 08:16 AM
Originally Posted by BunkerF16 (Post 3582989)
I don’t think anyone is lying to your pilot group. I just think they’re over inflating the chances of getting the pay parity.

There are 4 entities in these negotiations: NK management. B6 management. NK MEC/NC. B6 MEC/NC. 3 out of the 4 would be against the pay parity. Never say never but the chances of getting B6 pay rates before the JCBA is, as I said before, very very low.
I agree 100%. I never expected any pay raise during the TPA.

Irishblackbird 01-31-2023 09:08 AM
Originally Posted by BunkerF16 (Post 3582989)
I don’t think anyone is lying to your pilot group. I just think they’re over inflating the chances of getting the pay parity.

There are 4 entities in these negotiations: NK management. B6 management. NK MEC/NC. B6 MEC/NC. 3 out of the 4 would be against the pay parity. Never say never but the chances of getting B6 pay rates before the JCBA is, as I said before, very very low.
So you're saying we don't get another bite at that juicy "apple"? Say it isn't so.

Sounds more like a bitter lemon.

WHACKMASTER 01-31-2023 10:43 AM
Sorry. I don’t understand what’s to celebrate about coming in below the top bar that Delta set at $380/hr for the narrowbody Bus in their contract.

I’m SWA and if we come in at $360/hr. I’m gonna be P!$$ed!!!

Tranquility 01-31-2023 10:53 AM
Originally Posted by sioux8ships (Post 3583000)
I agree 100%. I never expected any pay raise during the TPA.
SM actually specifically said in the web presentation that they’d push for it BUT there was no guarantee that we’d get it…

Steelers 01-31-2023 11:24 AM
Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 3583122)
Sorry. I don’t understand what’s to celebrate about coming in below the top bar that Delta set at $380/hr for the narrowbody Bus in their contract.

I’m SWA and if we come in at $360/hr. I’m gonna be P!$$ed!!!
I voted no for several reasons but lets keep it factual. Our agreement is 18 months meant to bridge to JCBA negotiations. Delta isn't making $380 in a narrow body next year. I do agree that we should have been aiming to jump delta rates and not ride their coat tail.

SSlow 01-31-2023 12:18 PM
Originally Posted by Steelers (Post 3583152)
I voted no for several reasons but lets keep it factual. Our agreement is 18 months meant to bridge to JCBA negotiations. Delta isn't making $380 in a narrow body next year. I do agree that we should have been aiming to jump delta rates and not ride their coat tail.
Everyone you talk voted no, but yet it still passed. That's how TAs work.

Steelers 01-31-2023 12:29 PM
Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 3583182)
Everyone you talk voted no, but yet it still passed. That's how TAs work.

This one had some.very vocal yes voters.

Lincoln Osiris 01-31-2023 02:21 PM
Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes (Post 3582579)
Voted “no” buddy but thanks! “Yes” voters representing the discount airline pilot with the low tier pay rates they voted yes on.

Looking forward to a $40/hr ish raise with the TPA….
lmao if you think we are getting JB rates with the TPA I got some bad news for you bro...

SpeedBrakes 01-31-2023 03:46 PM
Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 3583128)
SM actually specifically said in the web presentation that they’d push for it BUT there was no guarantee that we’d get it…
Only thing SM needs to push us his a$$ off the NC

Bluedriver 02-02-2023 06:54 AM
Approximately what percentage of the entire NK seniority list is based in Florida?


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