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Originally Posted by putzin
(Post 3681393)
That doesnt seem like a bad system, do you guys like it?
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Originally Posted by DrSteveBrule
(Post 3681493)
I think it's dumb because reserves are reserves. Allowing 150% pickups reduces the pool of potential 200% X trips for lineholders, effectively jumping seniority in my eyes. Assign the trip to someone on reserve or call someone for an X if scheduling cant staff. A better option would be to first allow spirit pilots to actually bid RAPs by seniority, and then have a better system than the 'call me first' system, that honors seniority for 'specific' trips available inside 24 hours. Reserves straight picking up open time is a NO from me whether on a rap or off day. Do XY like everyone else. There is no provision preventing reserves from listing for X or Y on off days, just like lineholders. That is fair.
I think within 48hr first come first serve pick up by a reserve is fair but a seniority based pick up would be good too. Just somehow allow reserves to choose a preferred trip rather than waiting for a random assignment that fits their rap if it’s within the 48hr window where line holders can’t pick it up in open time. Would rather see that than allowing reserves to drop r days. Dropping r days would likely turn the grid red most days of the month. |
Originally Posted by Justabusdriver1
(Post 3681507)
I think within 48hr first come first serve pick up by a reserve is fair but a seniority based pick up would be good too. Just somehow allow reserves to choose a preferred trip rather than waiting for a random assignment that fits their rap if it’s within the 48hr window where line holders can’t pick it up in open time. Would rather see that than allowing reserves to drop r days. Dropping r days would likely turn the grid red most days of the month.
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Originally Posted by DrSteveBrule
(Post 3681521)
And this is correct and while i dont care that checkerboarding is gone, exactly because it screwed lineholders on red green. Yeah yeah it was senior guys bidding reserve doing it, dont care. It was dumb.
Reserve pickups inside 48 hours when the grid is green is a no-brainer, let the guys who want to fly on reserve fly, and let them have a chance to fly the trips they prefer instead of waiting and hoping. There could also be some way to effort limited reserve drops without undermining the grid for line holders. |
Originally Posted by BananaHammock
(Post 3680277)
IIRC reserve at Southwest has 15 days off a month... Just saying...
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
(Post 3681591)
There will have to be some compromise for reserve life, for the past several contracts the narrative has been “you spend a couple months on reserve as a new hire and a couple months as an upgrade and the rest of your career as a line holder and life is good, why waste negotiating capital on reserve rules?”. That’s may still hold true for some bases for FO’s, but upgrades will see much longer times on reserve, especially merging with B6.
Reserve pickups inside 48 hours when the grid is green is a no-brainer, let the guys who want to fly on reserve fly, and let them have a chance to fly the trips they prefer instead of waiting and hoping. There could also be some way to effort limited reserve drops without undermining the grid for line holders. |
Originally Posted by DrSteveBrule
(Post 3681521)
And this is correct and while i dont care that checkerboarding is gone, exactly because it screwed lineholders on red green. Yeah yeah it was senior guys bidding reserve doing it, dont care. It was dumb.
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and i was rarely able to drop as a lineholder because of checkerboarding. And yeah im also pro pbs. I never once saw a benefit from conflict. It also clogged up the red green at the front of every month. Red green is much better post-2018 from my perspective.
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11 from bottom in ORD
Stuck on R3 Reserve. Sucks balls. Used all the time, and getting stuck with all these new hires for Red Eyes. QOL is in the sh|tter!!!! |
Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes
(Post 3682749)
11 from bottom in ORD
Stuck on R3 Reserve. Sucks balls. Used all the time, and getting stuck with all these new hires for Red Eyes. QOL is in the sh|tter!!!! |
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