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WhyIFly 01-16-2024 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 3753193)
Leave Spirit to go to PSA or Envoy? Thats more out of touch that FedEx management suggesting their junior pilots leave for PSA. Why would someone leave a major with an up in the air future to a family of regionals with up in the air futures? AA is still hiring along with Delta and United. There's plenty of good options for Spirit pilots to go to without having to go to one of the AA Wholly owned. Spirit pilots have some of the best QOL in the industry, and AA wholly Owneds have some of the worst.

Spirit pilots have some of the best QOL in the industry...exactly. Pretty soon, NK will get 365 days a year off.

JulesWinfield 01-16-2024 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by WhyIFly (Post 3753329)
Spirit pilots have some of the best QOL in the industry...exactly. Pretty soon, NK will get 365 days a year off.

It will take a while to get sorted out. There’s a home for every Spirit pilot at legacies and LCCs. No need to go to a regional.

Noisecanceller 01-16-2024 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by lineupandhold (Post 3753311)
This. DTZ and the grid rules remain, so a good portion of guys (and gals) felt relief today. The ride on this wild wave continues...

It wasn’t going anywhere and they stand a greater chance of losing them now than with the merger. You sound retarded

ropestart 01-16-2024 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by WhyIFly (Post 3753329)
Spirit pilots have some of the best QOL in the industry...exactly. Pretty soon, NK will get 365 days a year off.

don’t be an A$$

Sieve 01-16-2024 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by ropestart (Post 3753451)
don’t be an A$$

Nah hes out of line but hes right.

thor55 01-16-2024 08:16 PM

Thank god spirit got a bite of the apple🍎🍏
 
What a horrible offer the spirit pilots agreed to, with no raise anytime soon. Nothing will be done fast to raise wages because Jet Blue might appeal......or Spirit cries cash poor and gives no raises or even forces pay cuts. Gotta love the job Spirit did In pulling one over on the pilots who voted yes. Schedule at spirit is nice, but $50 k to $100 k a year for doing the exact same thing is far better. Low, crappy pay is where Spirit stays,....... But just remember you got a bite of the apple😁😂😭😂😆🤣🤮🤮😵😡😡🍏🍎🍏🍎🍏🍎🍏🍎🍏🍎🍏🍎🍏🍎🍏🍎🍏🍎🍏🍎🍏🍊🍋🍋🍆🍆🍆

MasterOfPuppets 01-16-2024 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3753126)
With the latest news about AA "considering" the merger of their regionals, that PSA offer would look really good right now, especially if you have the crj type and even better if living in one of their bases. Even still, Envoy is offering some great stuff as well. If I was still at NK that is probably the route I would be at least considering right now. Best of luck. Who really knows though, F9 could be licking their lips to try and buy you again.

why don’t you just go to United and be awarded CA on day 2??

Beech Dude 01-17-2024 02:20 AM


Originally Posted by WhyIFly (Post 3753046)
"Throughout the initial bid and the trial, JetBlue argued that by absorbing Spirit, it could double its size and compete more effectively with the four major U.S. airlines — American Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Southwest Airlines and United Airlines — that together control about 80% of the U.S. air travel market."

The Legacy Airlines were never going to allow this.

The big guys have committed to spend more than $18million in lobbying in 2024 according to public records. Guess where this money is going...

This. The govt bloat and control has been exponentially increasing. They really want the legacies to control. If I had to guess, somewhere a group wants a return to the legacy only market and to get rid of deregulation.

HalinTexas 01-17-2024 03:12 AM

Age 67 isn't going to happen anytime soon.

Spirit may not make it through the recession which we are due. There won't be any movement in seniority or salary.

I've survived a the Great Recession, downgrade, contract concession in bankruptcy, another bankruptcy, furlough, and age 65. I started over at 58. I'm upgrading this week, after 2 years, in my home base. You don't want to be on the street when no one is hiring.

MaCrOs 01-17-2024 03:48 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3753504)
why don’t you just go to United and be awarded CA on day 2??

On day 1... Went pretty junior (EWR, DEN, SFO 737) and looks like that's there to stay for at least few months.

But honestly, I (like almost everyone else) was shocked with the judgment. Thought it was a done deal and NK group would be able to keep DTZ and the best QOL.
I enjoyed DTZ before leaving for UA. Although no DTZ, there are many other aspects that make QOL very good (once you learn all the little tricks of the 650 page contract 😬). Not sure how defending DTZ while the company financials are tanking will affect the future negotiations.

I really feel for the NK group. You're in a tough position now during one of the best times in the industry 😔.
For those who are considering UA, you can message me if you have any questions...

​​​​​​Good luck to those staying and those considering leaving.


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