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Old 05-06-2024 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
YEP! Now we get to see if it’s sold all as one or for parts
Who here is going to be laughing when American buys Spirit in bankruptcy or just prior?
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Old 05-06-2024 | 09:58 AM
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Who here is going to be laughing when American buys Spirit in bankruptcy or just prior?
Never going to happen. That would be the last possible dance partner. I only see two possible suitors. Frontier or Southwest. One has money and one doesn’t and the one with money I don’t think is interested in taking on a complex merger with a bankrupt carrier.

My guess is sold for parts in 2025. Bankruptcy filing in Q3 2024
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Old 05-06-2024 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
Never going to happen. That would be the last possible dance partner. I only see two possible suitors. Frontier or Southwest. One has money and one doesn’t and the one with money I don’t think is interested in taking on a complex merger with a bankrupt carrier.

My guess is sold for parts in 2025. Bankruptcy filing in Q3 2024
AA only has 15k pilots compared to 17500 at Ual and Delta. Taking NK would put them right around 18k pilots and our planes put them on a level playing field with Ual and Dal.
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Old 05-06-2024 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by CatPilot1
AA only has 15k pilots compared to 17500 at Ual and Delta. Taking NK would put them right around 18k pilots and our planes put them on a level playing field with Ual and Dal.
Never going to happen
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Old 05-06-2024 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
Never going to happen
Seems unlikely but it's not exactly impossible

Anything can be accomplished with enough $$$
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Old 05-06-2024 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CatPilot1
Spirit doesn’t have a stand alone plan bc that’s never been the plan. This airline was set up to be flipped from the beginning of being IPOed. You don’t CEO an account unless you are getting numbers right for a sale. This company will be sold one way or another, long term stand alone is not an option anyone serious is considering.
This guy gets it.
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Old 05-06-2024 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211

So I’ve been talking with a lot of Captains out there on the line and none of them are applying elsewhere or concerned about their jobs. You guys are going to be in for a rude awakening and scrambling for a job soon.

it is pretty clear we have no path forward (that will work). everybody keeps saying we will be fine. you guys are delusional.
Golden handcuffs, seniority, age, and an overall "Lost that lovin' feeling."

I have no desire to start this all over again. I will go down with this ship, rearrange my nest egg and take a $30k/year night warehouse job where I can listen to music, not deal with people, and sleep in my own bed without earplugs or alarm clocks. Biggest sacrifice will be stepping back down to driving a Mazda (not a Miata) and not getting that Ferrari I've always wanted. (Maybe a Miata instead?)

YMMV.
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Old 05-06-2024 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Force One
Golden handcuffs, seniority, age, and an overall "Lost that lovin' feeling."

I have no desire to start this all over again. I will go down with this ship, rearrange my nest egg and take a $30k/year night warehouse job where I can listen to music, not deal with people, and sleep in my own bed without earplugs or alarm clocks. Biggest sacrifice will be stepping back down to driving a Mazda (not a Miata) and not getting that Ferrari I've always wanted. (Maybe a Miata instead?)

YMMV.
cool story
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Old 05-06-2024 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
cool story
About as cool of a story as American buying Spirit. Time to abandon ship!
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Old 05-06-2024 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CatPilot1
AA only has 15k pilots compared to 17500 at Ual and Delta. Taking NK would put them right around 18k pilots and our planes put them on a level playing field with Ual and Dal.
AA's single biggest objective has been to reduce its dissipating mountain of debt. I don't think AA management has interest in adding back to it by absorbing Spirit's current financial situation.
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