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8JRMfortheyear 03-05-2024 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3777394)
Moving forward. Frontier comes back to buy us but this time with a lowball offer as compared to before. We are desperate and they know that nobody else can really touch us. (Unless maybe allegiant wants to get into a bidding war.)

since we are both ULCC’s airlines, the DOJ can’t say crap this time. Merger is approved both airlines become one.

maybe now that we’re not competing with each other we can get some quality of life and pay improvement out of it? both Spirit and Frontier pilot groups will prosper.

what do you guys think?

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SpeedBrakes 03-05-2024 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by Billy Tate (Post 3777630)
The downgrades and furloughs are coming. Ch11 is coming

You and [MENTION=76565]Halon1211[/MENTION] Spending too much time in that circle jerk together....hands must be getting chapped

Billy Tate 03-06-2024 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes (Post 3777665)
You and [MENTION=76565]Halon1211[/MENTION] Spending too much time in that circle jerk together....hands must be getting chapped



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Ed Force One 03-06-2024 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3777394)

maybe now that we’re not competing with each other we can get some quality of life and pay improvement out of it? both Spirit and Frontier pilot groups will prosper.

what do you guys think?

Please... Negotiations would drag 3 years and we'd end up with our current rates plus 1%. (exactly what Frontier got last round)

Halon1211 03-06-2024 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by Ed Force One (Post 3778336)
Please... Negotiations would drag 3 years and we'd end up with our current rates plus 1%. (exactly what Frontier got last round)

yeah at this rate we are not going to last 3 years.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-06/spirit-creditors-plot-triple-dip-strategy-as-carrier-sputters?sref=P6Q0mxvj

(yes, it’s a paywall) but you can read the first sentence and figure out what’s going on.

PineappleXpres 03-07-2024 01:48 AM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 3777606)
Frontier/Spirit would be approved, and Alaska/Hawaiian will be approved. In those cases two similar airlines are merging to better compete with the Big 4 and keep prices down,

JetBlue’s goal was to shut down an ULCC, remove that completion, and pilfer their planes and employees to grow quickly. That would have raised prices for consumers, and as a result the DOJ sued and the judge ruled in their favor. Two very different scenarios.

For most of our lifetimes there were 6+ true large carriers. I think that’s where the industry is heading again. Alaska/Hawaiian will be the first brick to fall. We will see if Frontier/Spirit becomes a reality, or if something else is cooked up.

Is that how the DOJ and DOT feel? I sure hope so. Lets go HALaska and Sprontier.


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