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RBanger 03-25-2024 03:43 PM
So much talk about BK, but would love to hear how ya'll are arriving at these conclusions........

putzin 03-25-2024 04:04 PM
Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3785257)
So we just started contract negotiations with a company about to go bankrupt…

so are we planning on asking for a pay cut then??? how do they picture this one working out for us?

I think the best thing would be just to leave this thing alone.


maybe they will threaten the company with more pilots leaving, because I’m sure that’s the last thing they want. Lol
$30 says they try to sell us another bite of the apple and an extension.

checkgear 03-25-2024 04:43 PM
Originally Posted by putzin (Post 3785559)
$30 says they try to sell us another bite of the apple and an extension.
I think you’re on the money. This is the worst tasting apple I’ve had in a while….

8JRMfortheyear 03-25-2024 06:15 PM
Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3785257)
So we just started contract negotiations with a company about to go bankrupt…

so are we planning on asking for a pay cut then??? how do they picture this one working out for us?

I think the best thing would be just to leave this thing alone.


maybe they will threaten the company with more pilots leaving, because I’m sure that’s the last thing they want. Lol
As much as I hate to say it, I agree that it should be left alone. Simply because its a waste of time and energy. We had two shots at this and blew it. At this point what could we possibly negotiate lol.

8JRMfortheyear 03-25-2024 06:16 PM
Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 3785348)
Except he wasn't at Pinnacle when they file for BK. He resign and left before it happend. Pinnacle was already heading for BK long before Ted and Sean got there.
I believe he did steer 9E to bankruptcy. I could be wrong but who cares.

Halon1211 03-25-2024 07:24 PM
Originally Posted by GrumpyCaptain (Post 3785506)
I’m at least $60 an hour paid less than my peers and no profit sharing. What planet do you live on?
apparently not the same one as you. On your planet. you think you can get paid $60 more an hour even though we are about to be bankrupt and you think even if they give us profit it’s going to make a difference.

so let me ask you this question; in order for you get get paid out for profit sharing, don’t you think your company has to be profitable? 🤔 maybe on your planet.

APCHCLIMB 03-25-2024 08:27 PM
Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3785635)
apparently not the same one as you. On your planet. you think you can get paid $60 more an hour even though we are about to be bankrupt and you think even if they give us profit it’s going to make a difference.

so let me ask you this question; in order for you get get paid out for profit sharing, don’t you think your company has to be profitable? 🤔 maybe on your planet.
what’s the worst that could happen? You guys are already broke. I say they should give you everything you want.

Excargodog 03-26-2024 05:43 AM
Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3785635)
apparently not the same one as you. On your planet. you think you can get paid $60 more an hour even though we are about to be bankrupt and you think even if they give us profit it’s going to make a difference.

so let me ask you this question; in order for you get get paid out for profit sharing, don’t you think your company has to be profitable? 🤔 maybe on your planet.
Actually, when the company ISN'T profitable may be the easiest time to negotiate for profit sharing because it literally costs the company nothing. And when (and if) the company does get turned around and is profitable, they can then afford it. It's a way of aligning management and labor and getting them both pulling in the same direction.

putzin 03-26-2024 08:14 AM
Originally Posted by APCHCLIMB (Post 3785651)
what’s the worst that could happen? You guys are already broke. I say they should give you everything you want.
We are not, we have 60 days! 🤣

putzin 03-26-2024 08:47 AM
Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear (Post 3785613)
As much as I hate to say it, I agree that it should be left alone. Simply because its a waste of time and energy. We had two shots at this and blew it. At this point what could we possibly negotiate lol.
The reality is we had a choice to be in F9s position, $100 behind or in ours and 60 behind. Our cycles are off and we'll never catch up, so there wasn't a choice. Not too mention you have to have a NC that listens to the pilot group. They literally told us they wouldn't go back to the table because of that stupid fkn merger with jetblue.

We blew our chances for industry standard in 2018 before the extension and subsequently fd Alligent and Frontier.


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