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bluespoon 03-29-2024 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by DrSteveBrule (Post 3786730)
Very good news. Nice chunk of cash for this year.

Except it doesn’t solve the issue that nobody wants to fly on Spirit unless they have to.

CatPilot1 03-30-2024 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by bluespoon (Post 3786873)
Except it doesn’t solve the issue that nobody wants to fly on Spirit unless they have to.

Then I guess lucky for Spirit. New poors are being minted on the daily in this country.

afterburn81 03-30-2024 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by bluespoon (Post 3786873)
Except it doesn’t solve the issue that nobody wants to fly on Spirit unless they have to.

I’m gonna guess you have no idea how many people “have” to fly Spirit. Would you be offended if someone called you poor? The majority in this nation don’t even make a 3rd of what you do. If you’re a pilot that is. Being part of the upper middle, can skew one’s view of what’s affordable.

Noisecanceller 03-30-2024 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by afterburn81 (Post 3786940)
I’m gonna guess you have no idea how many people “have” to fly Spirit. Would you be offended if someone called you poor? The majority in this nation don’t even make a 3rd of what you do. If you’re a pilot that is. Being part of the upper middle, can skew one’s view of what’s affordable.


Still not enough if that’s going to continue to be our target market. We need more people that buy tickets on airplanes to choose spirit. We don’t have that hence why we don’t make money. To get people to fly on us we have to sell tickets at a loss and hope to make it up scamming them with fees later. It’s not happening. Planes are fulliah but still not profitable. We need more demand so we can raise prices. Except when we raise prices demand goes down when you sell a garbage product. You have to make it up in customer service like southwest does. We think we can yell at people and have them waiting a half hour for a gate and an hour for their bags. Not going to work.

Lakeaffect 03-30-2024 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3786951)
Still not enough if that’s going to continue to be our target market. We need more people that buy tickets on airplanes to choose spirit. We don’t have that hence why we don’t make money. To get people to fly on us why have to sell tickets at a loss and hope to make it up scamming them with fees later. It’s not happening. Planes are fulliah but still not profitable. We need more demand so we can raise prices. Except when we raise prices demand goes down when you sell a garbage product. You have to make it up in customer service like southwest does. We think we can yell at people and have them waiting a half hour for a gate and an hour for their bags. Not going to work.

Yes. A majority of the flying population has voted with their wallets, they’d rather pay more and get more frequency, more destinations, loyalty rewards, and less up-charging. For those that say mergers haven’t been a good thing, the flying public disagrees with you.

3inthegreen 03-30-2024 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by Lakeaffect (Post 3786954)
Yes. A majority of the flying population has voted with their wallets, they’d rather pay more and get more frequency, more destinations, loyalty rewards, and less up-charging. For those that say mergers haven’t been a good thing, the flying public disagrees with you.

Exactly this! ^^^ Spirit is the most hated airline in the world and the most hated publically traded company in the US. This is what happens when you sh!t in your customers mouths for the better part of a decade.

Bluediver 03-30-2024 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by 3inthegreen (Post 3787005)
Exactly this! ^^^ Spirit is the most hated airline in the world and the most hated publically traded company in the US. This is what happens when you sh!t in your customers mouths for the better part of a decade.

Michael O’Leary takes offense to your comments.

PineappleXpres 03-30-2024 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by 3inthegreen (Post 3787005)
Exactly this! ^^^ Spirit is the most hated airline in the world and the most hated publically traded company in the US. This is what happens when you sh!t in your customers mouths for the better part of a decade.

Wonder why Ryan can’t die purely from customer dissatisfaction. Pilot discounting themselves seems to make up for it.

Noisecanceller 03-30-2024 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by Bluediver (Post 3787016)
Michael O’Leary takes offense to your comments.

****s on employees not the customers

Noisecanceller 03-30-2024 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by 3inthegreen (Post 3787005)
Exactly this! ^^^ Spirit is the most hated airline in the world and the most hated publically traded company in the US. This is what happens when you sh!t in your customers mouths for the better part of a decade.


Our management did this and refused to adapt when forced to look in the mirror. Merger has been dead for two months and still no adapting. Same story. They WILL get retention bonuses to pull the plug on the ship and watch it safely sink. Watch

There is no way a 200 plane airline that owns nothing is too cumbersome to change strategy on a dime. Mismanagement period. Zero leadership.


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