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Judge Smails 07-13-2024 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3819776)
Ah here is one of our 90 hour a month "legacy builders" now. I'll help fill you in. The pilot group is mad because the union sold so hard the "second bite of the apple" sounding like they worked for Ted rather than the pilot group. Lesson #1 in contract negotiations, never expect or sell that there will be a "next time", in this industry especially. The MEC took a chance that there would be a next time, lost, and now they must eat that and look foolish. New blood is needed.

Lesson #1 eh? Let me ask how many negotiating committees you have served on and how many contracts you have negotiated? The MEC's strategy was decided by the reps you all voted for, and that strategy was approved by almost 70% of your peers.

We're lucky we got what we did, when we did. How is holding out working for Frontier right about now? Some of you are completely delusional.

ropestart 07-13-2024 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3819776)
Ah here is one of our 90 hour a month "legacy builders" now. I'll help fill you in. The pilot group is mad because the union sold so hard the "second bite of the apple" sounding like they worked for Ted rather than the pilot group. Lesson #1 in contract negotiations, never expect or sell that there will be a "next time", in this industry especially. The MEC took a chance that there would be a next time, lost, and now they must eat that and look foolish. New blood is needed.

I would like to know how many MEC members have one foot out the door!?

Lincoln Osiris 07-13-2024 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by ropestart (Post 3819829)
I would like to know how many MEC members have one foot out the door!?

All of them lmao while crying to us with "oH yEa, WeLl hOw MaNy CoNtRaCt'S hAvE yOu NeGoTiAtEd!". The MEC took what ol Teddy and Bendo gave em and said oh thank you sir! We will now run off and sell this for you like good little soldiers.

Lincoln Osiris 07-13-2024 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 3819782)
Lesson #1 eh? Let me ask how many negotiating committees you have served on and how many contracts you have negotiated? The MEC's strategy was decided by the reps you all voted for, and that strategy was approved by almost 70% of your peers.

We're lucky we got what we did, when we did. How is holding out working for Frontier right about now? Some of you are completely delusional.

Quick question. Should we still go tell our Delta buddies to "step it up" since we take more out of Spirit's bottom line than they do of Delta's? EMBARRASING.

Excargodog 07-13-2024 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy (Post 3819536)
it would appear that unfortunately it will be difficult to bargain from a position of strength at this time. He’ll, management is probably going to be looking for concessions

If that's the case, then the ability to drag out negotiations might actually work for the union for once.

it's about time...

Stayontarget 07-13-2024 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 3819782)
Lesson #1 eh? Let me ask how many negotiating committees you have served on and how many contracts you have negotiated? The MEC's strategy was decided by the reps you all voted for, and that strategy was approved by almost 70% of your peers.

We're lucky we got what we did, when we did. How is holding out working for Frontier right about now? Some of you are completely delusional.

“…How is holding out working for Frontier…” Huh?

8JRMfortheyear 07-14-2024 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 3819782)
Lesson #1 eh? Let me ask how many negotiating committees you have served on and how many contracts you have negotiated? The MEC's strategy was decided by the reps you all voted for, and that strategy was approved by almost 70% of your peers.

We're lucky we got what we did, when we did. How is holding out working for Frontier right about now? Some of you are completely delusional.

Clean your nose please.

8JRMfortheyear 07-14-2024 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3819848)
Quick question. Should we still go tell our Delta buddies to "step it up" since we take more out of Spirit's bottom line than they do of Delta's? EMBARRASING.

These people remind me of the naysayer saying Trump assisination attemp was staged. Living in PBS DENIAL mode lol.

sioux8ships 07-16-2024 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear (Post 3819953)
These people remind me of the naysayer saying Trump assisination attemp was staged. Living in PBS DENIAL mode lol.

But hey, looks like another $160 million loss for the quarter! Wasn’t there talk of breaking even at some point? Cash on hand will be gone before we know it.

Noisecanceller 07-16-2024 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3819846)
All of them lmao while crying to us with "oH yEa, WeLl hOw MaNy CoNtRaCt'S hAvE yOu NeGoTiAtEd!". The MEC took what ol Teddy and Bendo gave em and said oh thank you sir! We will now run off and sell this for you like good little soldiers.

Let’s say that’s true. What do you think we would’ve gotten by now that’s better? This place is filing for bankruptcy in less than a few months.


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