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gonyon 12-19-2024 08:21 AM

Will this judge approve NK’s exit plan
 
Or will this be a replay of the merger trial where we were all pretty confident that it was going to go one way but then didn’t.

CatPilot1 12-19-2024 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by gonyon (Post 3863060)
Or will this be a replay of the merger trial where we were all pretty confident that it was going to go one way but then didn’t.

https://airlinegeeks.com/2024/12/19/...ve-by-merging/

redhot 12-19-2024 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3863062)


My guess is when F9/NK talked last month they got to look under the hood and see if a deal would be viable after a certain amount of debt is shed in the CH11 process.

mudpie 12-19-2024 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by redhot (Post 3863069)
My guess is when F9/NK talked last month they got to look under the hood and see if a deal would be viable after a certain amount of debt is shed in the CH11 process.

They got to figure out if a merger would actually be good for Frontier. This isn't 2 years ago coming out of COVID and demand was ever rising. You couldn't get planes/pilots fast enough. Not sure right now doubling the fleet overnight is such a good idea anymore.

It might serve them well to stay in their niche and grow incrementally and methodically. Seem like Spirit got too big too fast and imploded.

Alexjones 12-20-2024 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by gonyon (Post 3863060)
Or will this be a replay of the merger trial where we were all pretty confident that it was going to go one way but then didn’t.

Considering spirit pre bankruptcy spirit was/is majority individual share holder owned. Does any one think chapter 11 may be a temporary stop to screw the individuals out of money

before these larger bond holder take everything in a liquidation during chapter 7.

Lincoln Osiris 12-20-2024 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Alexjones (Post 3863434)
Considering spirit pre bankruptcy spirit was/is majority individual share holder owned. Does any one think chapter 11 may be a temporary stop to screw the individuals out of money

before these larger bond holder take everything in a liquidation during chapter 7.

Try again in english please.

CatPilot1 12-20-2024 11:41 AM

https://youtu.be/ZG1t0JyQ5ek?si=NDC0dot8O7K66XDg

Rhdicjkwso 12-20-2024 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3863437)
Try again in english please.

Spirit declare “BUNKRUPTCY!!!!1!” (Chapter 11) to wipe out all the people holding the stock. (Common folk)

the company is now owned by the people that hold the debt eg BlackRock and other big scary private equity. They force the chapter 11 to gain full control of the company then turn around to make big money when they sell the pieces off. In chapter 7.

i think that’s what he’s trying to say.

sioux8ships 12-20-2024 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Rhdicjkwso (Post 3863467)
Spirit declare “BUNKRUPTCY!!!!1!” (Chapter 11) to wipe out all the people holding the stock. (Common folk)

the company is now owned by the people that hold the debt eg BlackRock and other big scary private equity. They force the chapter 11 to gain full control of the company then turn around to make big money when they sell the pieces off. In chapter 7.

i think that’s what he’s trying to say.

How many times do we need to remind people that Spirit only has roughly 500 million in tangible assets. So where is this “big money” black rock and the other debt holders coming from??? Gates, leases, slots at LGA?



Lincoln Osiris 12-20-2024 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Rhdicjkwso (Post 3863467)
Spirit declare “BUNKRUPTCY!!!!1!” (Chapter 11) to wipe out all the people holding the stock. (Common folk)

the company is now owned by the people that hold the debt eg BlackRock and other big scary private equity. They force the chapter 11 to gain full control of the company then turn around to make big money when they sell the pieces off. In chapter 7.

i think that’s what he’s trying to say.

BlackRock doesn't own any of Spirit Airlines' debt...


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