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SAFlyerFL 03-27-2026 06:23 AM

Appreciate the replies and the differing perspectives from all of you. We'll see how things shake out over the coming weeks and if I get any traction here or somewhere else.

DirkDiggler9999 03-27-2026 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by TheCalmCaptain (Post 4016941)
Please don’t listen to the negativity. The same 5 people spewing the liquidation nonsense is exactly that, nonsense. We will start taking deliveries 2027. There is growth coming plus the attrition equals a great opportunity. If you live in FL or NYC you will have the best quality of life in the industry and make as much money as you want.

A lot of former employees that thought spirit was shutting down left to go to legacies. Now they are really struggling with the fact the Spirit is going to survive and they walked away from decades of seniority. Don’t listen to their nonsense.

Or is it the Pollyanna types that talk about how great Spirit is going to be? NK is still at risk of not making it. Employees will have that hanging over their heads for quite a while. Having to wonder everyday if your job will be here tomorrow is a tough way to live and sleep at night for many. We have a limited time to work in the industry due to age limits, medical issues, etc… If you are happy, I am happy for you. We all have choices. It is very concerning that NK is coming out a much smaller airline trying to compete with behemoths that want nothing more than to squash NK. To sugar coat this is crazy to me but to each his own. For a senior NK pilot to tell a junior pilot or potential junior pilot to bury their heads in the sand, and not look at reality, is quite deceitful. Nothing about NKs future is set in stone, good or bad. I only encourage people to look at the facts and read between the lines.

FlyGuy2002 03-27-2026 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by DirkDiggler9999 (Post 4017488)
Or is it the Pollyanna types that talk about how great Spirit is going to be? NK is still at risk of not making it. Employees will have that hanging over their heads for quite a while. Having to wonder everyday if your job will be here tomorrow is a tough way to live and sleep at night for many. We have a limited time to work in the industry due to age limits, medical issues, etc… If you are happy, I am happy for you. We all have choices. It is very concerning that NK is coming out a much smaller airline trying to compete with behemoths that want nothing more than to squash NK. To sugar coat this is crazy to me but to each his own. For a senior NK pilot to tell a junior pilot or potential junior pilot to bury their heads in the sand, and not look at reality, is quite deceitful. Nothing about NKs future is set in stone, good or bad. I only encourage people to look at the facts and read between the lines.

thankfully we have you to clarify things. To tell us the future. Amazing I made it this far in my career without your insight and foresight. You mention choices. We are all well aware the choices weather it be stay or leave. Spirit has been around what, 40 years? Tiny DC-9 operator to reasonably sized disruptor. It has survived all the ups and downs. Bull markets and bear markets. Perhaps it will and perhaps it won’t this time. Your analysis and dour outlook may turn out to be true. But guess what, maybe it won’t .

8JRMfortheyear 03-27-2026 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by SAFlyerFL (Post 4017234)
Appreciate the replies and the differing perspectives from all of you. We'll see how things shake out over the coming weeks and if I get any traction here or somewhere else.

Don’t be a dish!t like me and bypass class dates trying push back to see if Southwest would make a move based on stupid rumors !!! All I can do is sit a wait but I think I botched my chances.

friedbolgona 03-28-2026 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002 (Post 4017524)
thankfully we have you to clarify things. To tell us the future. Amazing I made it this far in my career without your insight and foresight. You mention choices. We are all well aware the choices weather it be stay or leave. Spirit has been around what, 40 years? Tiny DC-9 operator to reasonably sized disruptor. It has survived all the ups and downs. Bull markets and bear markets. Perhaps it will and perhaps it won’t this time. Your analysis and dour outlook may turn out to be true. But guess what, maybe it won’t .

Youre a ****ing fool. This isn’t the 90s. I’m tired of you “Spirit is gonna make it” types arrogantly proselytizing NKs continued existence.

rickair7777 03-28-2026 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by TheCalmCaptain (Post 4016941)
Please don’t listen to the negativity. The same 5 people spewing the liquidation nonsense is exactly that, nonsense. We will start taking deliveries 2027. There is growth coming plus the attrition equals a great opportunity. If you live in FL or NYC you will have the best quality of life in the industry and make as much money as you want.

A lot of former employees that thought spirit was shutting down left to go to legacies. Now they are really struggling with the fact the Spirit is going to survive and they walked away from decades of seniority. Don’t listen to their nonsense.

Objectively I don't see it.

I have a couple good friends at NK, who are staying for now, so I'm definitely rooting for you all.

But I don't see the math, and this escalation of the Oct 7 war isn't going to help, certainly not short-term.

Judge Smails 03-29-2026 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by TheCalmCaptain (Post 4016941)
Please don’t listen to the negativity. The same 5 people spewing the liquidation nonsense is exactly that, nonsense. We will start taking deliveries 2027. There is growth coming plus the attrition equals a great opportunity. If you live in FL or NYC you will have the best quality of life in the industry and make as much money as you want.

A lot of former employees that thought spirit was shutting down left to go to legacies. Now they are really struggling with the fact the Spirit is going to survive and they walked away from decades of seniority. Don’t listen to their nonsense.

I'm one of the many that left for a legacy and walked away from over a decade of seniority. I would do it again tomorrow. Prior to what's happening in Iran, I actually did think Spirit had a chance to survive, however Spirit's bankruptcy exit plan is contingent on ~$60/bbl oil. We're heading for double that or more. I seriously wish you guys the best as I still have friends there, but you better hope this war winds down quickly. Based on the news this morning, that doesn't look promising.

Silver02ex 03-29-2026 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by TheCalmCaptain (Post 4016941)
Please don’t listen to the negativity. The same 5 people spewing the liquidation nonsense is exactly that, nonsense. We will start taking deliveries 2027. There is growth coming plus the attrition equals a great opportunity. If you live in FL or NYC you will have the best quality of life in the industry and make as much money as you want.

A lot of former employees that thought spirit was shutting down left to go to legacies. Now they are really struggling with the fact the Spirit is going to survive and they walked away from decades of seniority. Don’t listen to their nonsense.

No, many of us gave up 10+ years at Spirit because we didn't know what would happen in the future. Even if Spirit survive, I would going from 30% to commuting across the country and sit reserve as a CA if I'm lucky, or have a short commute and be an FO making less than what I make now as a 2nd year FO. Plus now I get to drive to work and have a better QOL.

CincoDeMayo 03-29-2026 03:00 PM

"Decades of seniority"

What is that decade of seniority getting someone based in DFW, ORD, or LAS? Plug CA? Commuting CA? FO?
I couldn't give 2 poops about 10 years seniority if it cant even get me a holiday or weekend off, or hold the base that I live in. What's the CA plug for DFW? 12 years with Teo? Yeah, sweet.

skigambia 03-30-2026 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 4017836)
I'm one of the many that left for a legacy and walked away from over a decade of seniority. I would do it again tomorrow. Prior to what's happening in Iran, I actually did think Spirit had a chance to survive, however Spirit's bankruptcy exit plan is contingent on ~$60/bbl oil. We're heading for double that or more. I seriously wish you guys the best as I still have friends there, but you better hope this war winds down quickly. Based on the news this morning, that doesn't look promising.

No one is safe if this war doesn't wind down soon.


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