Originally Posted by LTJ9 (Post 4020112)

Spirit’s financial reports use to list ‘juniority’ as a cost savings. I think they’d prefer it this way and it allows them to control staffing as they shrink.

Originally Posted by SAFlyerFL (Post 4019274)

Had application status change to “Under Review” on 4/1. Anyone else have any traction since submitting?

Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4020139)

It seems that only makes sense in the regional context, where people stick around for a while, upgrade and build PIC for the majors.

If the top 2/3 of the list in on 12 year scale, I don't know that a lot of training churn at the bottom is worth the cost.

Originally Posted by SAFlyerFL (Post 4019274)

Had application status change to “Under Review” on 4/1. Anyone else have any traction since submitting?

Originally Posted by goblue97 (Post 4020383)

Mine changed to under review as well on 4/2 but nothing else

Originally Posted by Stankhunt42 (Post 4020575)

It’s not, in fact after Covid the newhire FO attrition was a huge problem for Spirit and other LCCs. The legacy’s were gutting all the LCCs from the bottom. Having to retrain 1500 hr cfis gets costly. Except this time it’s retrain 1500 hr industry burnouts.

Originally Posted by BrazilBusDriver (Post 4018331)

I’d wager it’s 1991, 2001, Age 65, and 2008. Plus the end of pensions coupled with the lost decade and food stamp wages at RJ operators in the 1990s and 2000s. Couple all that with the fact that many here on APC are older than most - typically Xers or older and hit more of those speed bumps.

Does it make sense anymore? Recent history and industry consolidation suggests not, but time will tell. Could still be pretty damn rough if you’re at the wrong place.

Originally Posted by LTJ9 (Post 4020589)

The legacy airlines aren’t hiring from the bottom of the ULCC lists as much now.

From Spirit’s filing:
“Labor costs are projected to be the Reorganized Debtors’ largest expense. The Debtors assume expenses of $0.8 billion in fiscal year 2026 and ending at $0.8 billion in fiscal year 2030. Labor volume increases are expected to be mainly mitigated by average seniority reductions as the company resumes growth following the restructuring period.”

Originally Posted by RStrawberry (Post 4021050)

They still are. 90% of the pilots leaving F9 are FOs with 3 years on property or less.

Originally Posted by RStrawberry (Post 4021050)

They still are. 90% of the pilots leaving F9 are FOs with 3 years on property or less.

Originally Posted by Stankhunt42 (Post 4022145)

I have no doubt about the attrition, however they are not going to legacies in mass. Right now they seem to be taking mostly CAs. Sure a small few low time FOs are getting on but to say 90% of F9 FOs under three years are leaving to legacies isn’t true. Most probably go back to a regional where they view it as an opportunity to get some PIC time to move on.