Lol this is called fake news. I know at least 5 that went back to a regional, it’s the same with NK FOs. I do know a few that had interviews and got turned down than went back to a regional. In the last year, only one guy who I would consider a true low time FO has gotten on at a legacy. In the last year CAs have flooded the legacy job market. Low time FOs just aren’t competitive right now which is historically normal. What happened after Covid with the hiring will most likely never happen again. Stop lying…

 

There is zero reason for me to lie about this. Perhaps some NK did but NK and Frontier are in completely different positions.

I can say first and last names of everybody in my base, where they went, and the day they left but that wouldn’t be very wise on this site now would it? I can tell you that 3% of the captains and 9% of the FOs in my base left this year and they have all gone a legacy. But ya, fake news. You sure got me cornered there.

 

Yup. I haven’t flown with a single fo in the past few years with an app in at a regional.

 

My sim partner from F9 new hire left at the 1.5 year mark. Was a prior RJ guy but no PIC time. I recently got a legacy CJO under 3000 TT.. Again no PIC time, first airline, less than 2 years on property. A majority of our attrition airline wide (probably 65-70%) are FOs, and I'd guess 90% of them (or more) have 0 PIC time.

Nobody at F9 is going to a regional unless they were asked to resign in lieu of termination.

 

Literally no one gives a flying **** what a Frontier pilot is doing. This is an NK sub.

 

Why are the CA's not leaving? Their own choice?

 

pride. Can’t go back slinging gear for your FO that left years ago and is a CA already!

 

Money. Golden handcuffs.

Also some just dont want to walk away from their longevity. Is what it is.

 

LOL, maybe because you reach an age or some other point where you just don’t give a ******** about this career anymore. Been a long time since I’ve posted here. Imagine my surprise that the same ol’ people…even ones who have moved on are still here circulating the toxic nonsense. Please do yourselves a favor and get a life. Thx

 

Mostly QoL of being a captain in base at a major airline already. A huge majority of CAs I've ever flown with at F9 have no intention to leave, nor have their apps out. Many of them stopped applying when they got the CA seat in-base. Some can't afford it (literally), some don't want to take the paycut, many think they're "too old" despite only being 38-44 years in age.. The list goes on. Each have their own reasons.

The captains I tend to see leaving are the brand new, <3-3.5 years on property CAs who are still 28-33 years in age, or the very senior that are just fed up with the company and want to make the most of what's left ahead in their career.

FOs have nothing to lose - our year 3 pay is only ~1-3$ more per hour than a legacy's year 1 pay..and the difference is likely made up with the soft pay opportunities those airlines have. For many of us it's a no brainer to leave.