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PokerPro 03-23-2009 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW (Post 583576)
CBA CH. 23, B, 2...
A furloughed pilot shall retain and accrue seniority and have recall rights for a period of seven (7) years.


Correct, but seniority and longevity are separate issues.

from the contract:
“Longevity” means that period of time commencing on a pilot’s date of hire and continuing while in the active service of the Company except as otherwise provided for in this Agreement.

And from the pay chart:

A pilot will receive the following hourly rates based on status and longevity as follows:

A320Flyer 03-23-2009 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW (Post 583578)
I suggest the next time you have a "late night theory", you keep it to yourself.

Why? Didn't get the call? Or are you frustrated you'll probably be commuting to ACY for the next year or so...

Cheer up old fart!

Sniper 03-24-2009 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by PokerPro (Post 583597)
“Longevity” means that period of time commencing on a pilot’s date of hire and continuing while in the active service of the Company except as otherwise provided for in this Agreement.

"active service of the Company"? As a furlough, you are in the 'active service of the company'?:confused:

This, coming on the heels of APA's '7300 floor' defeat in arbitration has really got me confused over the status of a furloughed pilot.

johnso29 03-24-2009 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by Sniper (Post 584003)
"active service of the Company"? As a furlough, you are in the 'active service of the company'?:confused:

This, coming on the heels of APA's '7300 floor' defeat in arbitration has really got me confused over the status of a furloughed pilot.

Your in "active service" to the company when it's convient for management!:mad: In other words, you DON'T accrue longevity on furlough, you DONT receive a paycheck while on furlough(except for maybe some furlough pay depending on your contract), but somehow all of AA's furloughed pilots who haven't collected a check from AMR for 7+ years are employed by the company! What a load of crap!!!:mad:

Short Bus Drive 03-24-2009 08:34 AM

Don't know what they say now, but there was a precedent set back in 2001 if they screw with you..
I was hired Feb 05, 2001 with Spirit. After 9-11, I was furloughed for the month (basically) of Oct., and got called back.
As far longevity AND pay, it was like I never left. Feb. 05 of 2002, I got my raise. AND it was based on DOH, unlike SOME place, where it starts (pay raise) one year from the date of your ride (which was two months later:rolleyes:).

taylorjets 03-24-2009 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive (Post 584066)
Don't know what they say now, but there was a precedent set back in 2001 if they crew with you..
I was hired Feb 05, 2001 with Spirit. After 9-11, I was furloughed for the month (basically) of Oct., and got called back.
As far longevity AND pay, it was like I never left. Feb. 05 of 2002, I got my raise. AND it was based on DOH, unlike SOME place, where it starts (pay raise) one year from the date of your ride (which was two months later:rolleyes:).

Any luck with the job search?

Short Bus Drive 03-24-2009 08:58 AM

NEGATIVE! My name was on a list sent to the FSDO in DTW (really YIP), and I know at least 8 guys/gal up there.
However, as luck would have it, we are setted in NJ right now. So we'll see, I am trying to work with the PHL, ABE or TEB FSDOs now to see if they have anything coming up.:confused:

FLYBOYMATTHEW 03-24-2009 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by A320Flyer (Post 583709)
Why? Didn't get the call? Or are you frustrated you'll probably be commuting to ACY for the next year or so...

Cheer up old fart!

I'm just upset that I'm not a good enough pilot to be based somewhere as "challenging" as FLL. What can I say, I gave it my best effort at tryouts. I guess I should have "paid my dues".

captscott26 03-24-2009 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW (Post 584162)
I'm just upset that I'm not a good enough pilot to be based somewhere as "challenging" as FLL. What can I say, I gave it my best effort at tryouts. I guess I should have "paid my dues".

Dude....RELAX!

Go over to the other board if you want to start a war.

Sailor 03-25-2009 03:10 AM

Agreed Scott!!, we started this thread for info only!:)


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