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captscott26 08-25-2009 04:38 AM

I dont think you will hear anything official on that subject until october at the earliest. I do think there will be a very small recall this fall, but that's just my opinion. I think we will need a few more on line by Dec 1st, and since its been longer than 12 months for the guys on furlough, they will require a more extensive training course to be requalified. So I expect folks to be in class beginning of november.

Sailor 08-25-2009 10:49 AM

Thanks Scott

RemoveB4flght 08-25-2009 10:54 AM

wouldn't it be easier for them to first bring back some of the voluntary leave of absence people first? or is that even an option?

Everythings been so quiet lately... maybe a little too quiet....

Normann 08-25-2009 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght (Post 667965)
wouldn't it be easier for them to first bring back some of the voluntary leave of absence people first? or is that even an option?

Everythings been so quiet lately... maybe a little too quiet....

Those will come back anyways when their leave time is up. The longest was until December believe. So if they will have a need it would be on top of that 12 on leave. I think recall for Nov is optimistic. If they could ride out July, they'll ride out Dec also. I hope I am wrong but my personal count back clock is set to Feb/March.

captscott26 08-25-2009 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by Normann (Post 667977)
Those will come back anyways when their leave time is up. The longest was until December believe. So if they will have a need it would be on top of that 12 on leave. I think recall for Nov is optimistic. If they could ride out July, they'll ride out Dec also. I hope I am wrong but my personal count back clock is set to Feb/March.

They never got 12 pilots to take leave for the full 3 months, nor did they get an equivalent number of one month leaves to account for 12 pilots @ 3 months. Go back and look at the awards, there were only a handful of volunteers and mostly for one month only.
This dec is different than last July. In july they chose to ride it out because they knew the fall was coming and if they recalled a few they would most likely have to furlough them a few months down the road. This Dec we are just a few months shy of three new airframes and a boat load of training to get everyone on line in time. Im not saying there will definately be a recall this fall, but my opinion is there will be.

Normann 08-25-2009 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by captscott26 (Post 668060)
They never got 12 pilots to take leave for the full 3 months, nor did they get an equivalent number of one month leaves to account for 12 pilots @ 3 months. Go back and look at the awards, there were only a handful of volunteers and mostly for one month only.

Right. Nobody said they got 12 for 3 months. It makes no difference for December if a few comes back sooner. What matters is that they will all be back latest effective Dec 1st when traffic picks up again. So any recalls will happen after those 12 are back. That is all I was saying.


Originally Posted by captscott26 (Post 668060)
This dec is different than last July. In july they chose to ride it out because they knew the fall was coming and if they recalled a few they would most likely have to furlough them a few months down the road. This Dec we are just a few months shy of three new airframes and a boat load of training to get everyone on line in time. Im not saying there will definately be a recall this fall, but my opinion is there will be.

I agree about this. I have posted the same thing a few posts, or pages before in this thread. But I "think" they will try to squeeze it if at all possible. But we may get lucky. I am in the same boat you are so I am hopeful too just not very optimistic.

A320Flyer 08-30-2009 01:31 PM

Latest P.O.'s bullet points: N601NK arriving in March, N602NK in April.

dudeskibro 08-30-2009 01:34 PM

Wasn't it four?! Now it's two!? Soon it will be "we have no money for new planes". This clown airline.

Normann 08-30-2009 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by dudeskibro (Post 670431)
Wasn't it four?! Now it's two!? Soon it will be "we have no money for new planes". This clown airline.

One in May, and one in Sept. ASFAIK. But of course we could always trade those for some 319 since those do not fit well into the almost all 319 fleet.

But "clown airlines" does fit well. FA's doing adult advertisement, spiritTV, "The McDonald's of Airlines", ex-central amateur xxx videos on the internet, combined with bipolar a/c delivery patterns. Next thing you know you are watching Discovery Channel and Spirit will be right after Survivor Man. Then it will be revealed that we have actually been hired for the biggest reality show on the globe. :rolleyes: Fantastic drama. It is almost entertaining.

shiftwork 08-30-2009 05:32 PM

Any bets on the 321's going away??????


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