Consider yourself lucky where you are. Keep you seniority, schedule and pay as bad as you think it is now. Keep your focus on the legacies and other larger carriers. The NC email today should be a wake up call to all that this management team sucks and hates pilots. Don't come here!

I'm a 13k hour RJ guy thinking of coming over. I have a few friends there. Just a little hesitant based on the disgruntled posts.

I am sorry but just a little?? If your friends over here are new f/o's that might explain the little part because of how they feel about the "new" job and getting airbus time but if they are captains, you need to ask them about the latest email from the NC. If your friends aren't ****ed yet, they will be very soon. This is a dead end operation. Management is running it into the ground or setting us up for a f9 merger. I think a f9 merge is worst thing that could happen. I am a 6 year capt trying to get out!

What's the latest news on you gentlemen (and ladies if you're out there) on getting a worthy contract? Have things regressed?

Yes, looks like the long haul.

Regressed would be putting it nicely. Our management is on a Lorenzo-like level of sleaziness.

Do 5 minutes of reading before asking a question like this. You can barely click on a Spirit thread without seeing the current state of negotiations. If you can't find that info without asking for it you may not have the work ethic to make it through our training in the first place.
Not trying to be an ass but this info is everywhere

The counter was apparently a lengthy presentation on why Spirit isn't a major and can't afford A320 pilots.

Even though they can and it's been proven. We now have to submit that proof in two weeks

"Fellow Spirit Pilots,

This week, bargaining was scheduled to begin on Monday. However, bargaining was delayed
until the following day due to COO John Bendoraitis’ absence from the bargaining table.
Before Monday, no advance notice was communicated to either the mediator or the
Association of his unavailability. In retrospect, this was a fitting start to a week that would
prove to be underwhelming.

Tuesday’s session began with a presentation on the history of and opportunities within the
U.S. airline industry by Spirit’s Executive Vice President & CFO, Ted Christie. Sr. Vice
President & CCO, Matt Klein and Vice President, Pricing & Revenue Management, Eric
Netland addressed Spirit’s pricing and revenue management. Finally, Spirit’s Director of
Finance, Costin Corneanu made a presentation on the Company’s view of the impact of
ALPA’s proposal on the Company’s five-year business plan. Together, these presentations
asserted that the ULCC model, and Spirit specifically, could not support ALPA’s package
proposal. We reject these assertions, particularly given that the Company’s presentations
projected no improvement to unit revenues beyond 2017 and did not reflect the significant
productivity improvements offered within ALPA’s scheduling AIPs.

On Wednesday, Spirit presented their Section 27, Insurance Benefits proposal. This came on
the heels of the Company’s March 15th medical plan proposal. The simplest way to
characterize the Company’s March 15th proposal is that our medical plan would be inferior
to any plan offered to our peers or even our flight attendants. The proposal made this
week regressed from the March 15th proposal. Little rationale was provided for this
concessionary demand.

On Thursday, the management team presented their long-awaited
comprehensive counter proposal. Simply put, rather than industry-standard, Spirit
proposed bottom of the industry. The total compensation (pay, retirement, profit sharing)
mirrored the lowest of any of the closed agreements in the industry. Flying to FAR 117 was
inserted, as was PBS, and any improvement in a manifestly insufficient pay package was
premised on removing almost every single quality-of-life item we presently enjoy.

The Negotiating Committee and professional staff spent Friday studying the Company’s
costing of ALPA’s and Spirit’s proposals, as well as Spirit’s business case assumptions.
The Company did propose significant improvements to our current pay and retirement.
However, relative to the industry standard, it is difficult to overstate how lacking the
Negotiating Committee found the Company’s proposal. We can find no justification,
business or otherwise, for our pilots to be compensated differently than our peers in the
industry and we refuse to continue to subsidize Spirit’s success. Spirit management
continues to argue that we should work for less than our professional colleagues and that
we must now “buy” bottom of the industry pay rates by generating offsets that fund those
increases.

Every single member of this pilot group needs to know that the Negotiating Committee and
the MEC remain steadfast and committed to achieving a contract that reflects our
contribution to the Company’s record of industry-leading profitability. We are not, and will
not be, deterred from this goal. Management’s well-worn strategy of funding its operations
with bottom of the industry pilot compensation will not succeed!
Our next bargaining session is scheduled for April 24-26 and we intend to present an
analysis of the impact of ALPA’s proposal.
Next week we will be sending out an updated industry comparison.
We remind everyone to remain professional during these trying times.

Fly safe and fly the
contract.

In Unity,"