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Old 12-18-2019, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wjcandee View Post
Cargojet and Mesa, airlines that you mentioned, don't fly for Amazon. Cargojet flies now for DHL.
Correction: CargoJet has been flying for Amazon for quite a little while.

https://www.aircargonews.net/airline...ator-cargojet/

Nevertheless, you're basically saying the same thing as RyeMex, just using more words.
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Old 12-18-2019, 08:54 PM
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If this doesn’t convince people to leave SY...nothing will!!! QOL is going to take a big hit...this has all the makings of a giant dumpster fire!

GET OUT WHILE THE GETTING’S GOOD!
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Old 12-18-2019, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by zerozero View Post
Correction: CargoJet has been flying for Amazon for quite a little while.

https://www.aircargonews.net/airline...ator-cargojet/

Nevertheless, you're basically saying the same thing as RyeMex, just using more words.
No question Cargojet, a Canadian airline, flies Amazon packages mixed with other freight on its planes in Canada. It's not the same arrangement as in the US, where Amazon dry-leases (controls) the aircraft from a third-party and hires airlines to fly them under a CMI agreement. I was thinking about the fact that DHL now uses Cargojet to fly routes out of CVG to places other than Canada, replacing carriers that used to fly for DHL. But point taken. If you read what I said to be the "same thing as RyeMex", I think you missed a few things, but whatever.
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Originally Posted by Shako68 View Post
If this doesn’t convince people to leave SY...nothing will!!! QOL is going to take a big hit...this has all the makings of a giant dumpster fire!

GET OUT WHILE THE GETTING’S GOOD!
One of my points in my earlier post is that this kind of "the sky is falling" stuff doesn't have to be true. The company will be growing, with or without Amazon. The Amazon contract means that it will have solid and more-rapid growth. Growth presents opportunity for those who are already there, particularly if it is handled well by management. Presumably, there will be lines to bid that look a lot like the lines do today, and there will be other lines to bid that don't. How that will destroy QOL and become a dumpster fire is beyond me.

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Old 12-19-2019, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by wjcandee View Post
One of my points in my earlier post is that this kind of "the sky is falling" stuff doesn't have to be true. The company will be growing, with or without Amazon. The Amazon contract means that it will have solid and more-rapid growth. Growth presents opportunity for those who are already there, particularly if it is handled well by management. Presumably, there will be lines to bid that look a lot like the lines do today, and there will be other lines to bid that don't. How that will destroy QOL and become a dumpster fire is beyond me.
If you can say that anyone at Sun Country management thought for one second that this decision would improve quality of life for anyone other than shareholders then maybe you have a chance. I’d put those odds pretty low though.
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Old 12-19-2019, 06:23 AM
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Management uses words like "growth" and "opportunity" to hide the fact that no pilot will be getting any raise any time soon. Instead we will be left with ****tier trips, less days off, and an overall decrease in QOL. Sounds like a dumpster fire to me. Why else would they be targeting kids right at 1000 hours to come work here?? they are the only ones who will do it, because they still live with mom and have no family to support.
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Old 12-19-2019, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by wjcandee View Post
One of my points in my earlier post is that this kind of "the sky is falling" stuff doesn't have to be true. The company will be growing, with or without Amazon. The Amazon contract means that it will have solid and more-rapid growth. Growth presents opportunity for those who are already there, particularly if it is handled well by management. Presumably, there will be lines to bid that look a lot like the lines do today, and there will be other lines to bid that don't. How that will destroy QOL and become a dumpster fire is beyond me.
People having been “hoping” SY will workout for 20+ years...and it hasn’t! If you truly think this is a good thing, while the company won’t be able to hire enough pilots to make it work...I’d say your fairly delusional. Most of the pilot group deserves better here!

There is scheduled to be over 6000 pilots hired by the top 8 US carriers in 2020...SY isn’t one of them.
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Old 12-20-2019, 07:14 AM
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No respect.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...work-regionqal

Regional carriers. smh
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Did anyone make it to the town hall? Any info?
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It’s Fox.

They’re not necessarily known for their commitment to accuracy...
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