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01-12-2023, 02:43 PM

#871

mixture lean

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Amazon Long Trips

Thread’s been a little quiet for a few days, so I’ll get the ball rolling on this one. They’re saying the long lines are coming back starting in March. Anyone else hear the same thing?

01-12-2023, 03:19 PM

#872

iLikeMoose

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Originally Posted by mixture lean

Thread’s been a little quiet for a few days, so I’ll get the ball rolling on this one. They’re saying the long lines are coming back starting in March. Anyone else hear the same thing?

That is what I heard too, but it was third-hand info, so big grain of salt until it is official.

01-12-2023, 06:13 PM

#873

HiFly5

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Originally Posted by iLikeMoose

That is what I heard too, but it was third-hand info, so big grain of salt until it is official.

The reason I heard was because the company doesn’t want to pay two full time employees to build and manage the long trips. No idea if true or not.

01-12-2023, 06:53 PM

#874

YerOnGuard

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Originally Posted by HiFly5

The reason I heard was because the company doesn’t want to pay two full time employees to build and manage the long trips. No idea if true or not.

Not to mention that our Amazon reliability went up immediately upon implementation of the long trips.

01-13-2023, 02:47 AM

#875

R0GER BALL

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Not just Amazon. December performance metrics were down across the board. What’s up?

01-13-2023, 05:39 AM

#876

YerOnGuard

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Originally Posted by R0GER BALL

Not just Amazon. December performance metrics were down across the board. What’s up?

I don’t know it to be 100% true, but I imagine the 4 days worth of big snowstorms in December really hurt the numbers.We completed almost every flight, but our on time performance was not great.

01-13-2023, 05:54 AM

#877

beech1980

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Originally Posted by YerOnGuard

I don’t know it to be 100% true, but I imagine the 4 days worth of big snowstorms in December really hurt the numbers.We completed almost every flight, but our on time performance was not great.

relying on other carriers to move our crews into position to operate amazon and charters is risky with all the delays and cancellations that have happened at the bigger airlines. That was the benefit with the long lines. No dead heading in the middle of the trip. The company is not very pro active. Not continuing these long trips hurts them as well as not continuing the letter that allows reserves to pick up flying on days off.

01-13-2023, 05:59 AM

#878

beech1980

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Originally Posted by HiFly5

The reason I heard was because the company doesn’t want to pay two full time employees to build and manage the long trips. No idea if true or not.

those two full time ALPA employees are necessary. Jeff Bosch doesn’t have the bandwidth to build the pairings, lines and long trips. I get it. It’s much more expensive to have two captains building the companies flying but they know what they are doing. It’s better we have pilots doing the work than a non pilot.

01-13-2023, 08:17 AM

#879

flyer138

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Originally Posted by beech1980

I don't think anyone on the planning side has much bandwidth available. From what I hear, it's been that way for awhile. Our ALPA reps assisting with the pairing creation are a god-send...

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01-13-2023, 11:18 AM

#880

EffSY

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Originally Posted by HiFly5

The reason I heard was because the company doesn’t want to pay two full time employees to build and manage the long trips. No idea if true or not.

just had recurrent and right from Greg’s mouth. He is fully aware it’s going to cost money to build these long trips and he’s 100% willing and able and ready to pay for it. He said the union has been stalling on signing the LOA not to the company🤷🏻‍♂️