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Old 11-21-2018, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer View Post
Good one! Never heard that before.
Haha yeah it’s one of the EASA ATPL test questions.
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Old 11-21-2018, 11:02 AM
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To be pedantic, it’s the square root of the altitude of each antenna times 1.23. Square root of 10,000 is 100 x 12 equals 1200 nm.

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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer View Post
To be pedantic, it’s the square root of the altitude of each antenna times 1.23. Square root of 10,000 is 100 x 12 equals 1200 nm.

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Don’t you mean 100 x 1.23 which is 123? 😆
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The guy that gave you AC91-70 was actually being pretty helpful. HF is required in oceanic airspace but different flight information regions have other, different requirements. So it's important to read-up since applying one rule of thumb to the wrong part of the world can sometimes get you in trouble.

A good way to start familiarizing yourself with this stuff is looking at the Jeppesen, paper orienation charts. They are full of notes and useful nuggets of information.
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No, the routes off the east coast or those across the gulf for that matter do not require HF. What you may have to do, depending on distance and altitude, is comply with non radar and or lost comms procedures as directed by the controller. I just dealt with that situation crossing the gulf below FL250.
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Another thing to add is that “oceanic airspace” does not mean airspace over oceans. It means airspace in oceanic control areas (oceanic FIRs or OCAs within specific FIRs).

There are also specific routings through particular OCAs which do not require HF, like Blue Spruce routes, etc.
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Originally Posted by Elevation View Post
Another thing to add is that “oceanic airspace” does not mean airspace over oceans. It means airspace in oceanic control areas (oceanic FIRs or OCAs within specific FIRs).

There are also specific routings through particular OCAs which do not require HF, like Blue Spruce routes, etc.
This. The Atlantic Routes are not oceanic. And at higher altitudes the airspace is controlled by US ATC, even in the Islands. Just have to have a raft on board.
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