Rest Question....
05-13-2007, 06:25 AM
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Rest Question....
Ok, here's my scenario...
Two day trip, the show time is 7:30...scheduled block is 7hrs 55 minutes, scheduled duty is 14hrs. On this particular pairing you end up actually blocking 9 hours 4 minutes, and you are never at anypoint delayed or behind. Pairing terminates at 2130, you have 9 hrs 30 minutes of rest at the overnight...According to whitlow, you can't leave for your last flight unless in the preceeding 24 hours you have the required rest. In this case you exceeded 9 hours block, your required rest would be 11 hours. If you look back in the preceeding 24 hours (2130-730 = 10hrs rest in prev. 24 hrs) you wouldn't have the required rest for it. You'd be on reduced rest for 9 hours of block time. Does this then mean that you must have compensatory rest at that overnight? (24hrs hours from when your required rest was reduced)
Two day trip, the show time is 7:30...scheduled block is 7hrs 55 minutes, scheduled duty is 14hrs. On this particular pairing you end up actually blocking 9 hours 4 minutes, and you are never at anypoint delayed or behind. Pairing terminates at 2130, you have 9 hrs 30 minutes of rest at the overnight...According to whitlow, you can't leave for your last flight unless in the preceeding 24 hours you have the required rest. In this case you exceeded 9 hours block, your required rest would be 11 hours. If you look back in the preceeding 24 hours (2130-730 = 10hrs rest in prev. 24 hrs) you wouldn't have the required rest for it. You'd be on reduced rest for 9 hours of block time. Does this then mean that you must have compensatory rest at that overnight? (24hrs hours from when your required rest was reduced)
05-13-2007, 07:31 AM
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Rather than take the advice of folks on this board that probably don't know what they're talking about (or have 2 dozen "opinions"), I'd suggest that you contact your local MEC or the legal rep for the union that represents your pilot group. They will offer you the best advice.
05-13-2007, 08:10 AM
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Every airline out there interpets duty regs different. I thought Whitlow was pretty clear but even after that if you put 5 different POIs in the same room and ask each of them the same regulation question you will get 5 different answers. I dont agree with the majority of answers you will get from APC members either.
Talk to your union rep.
Talk to your union rep.
05-15-2007, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rightseater
Ok, here's my scenario...
Two day trip, the show time is 7:30...scheduled block is 7hrs 55 minutes, scheduled duty is 14hrs. On this particular pairing you end up actually blocking 9 hours 4 minutes, and you are never at anypoint delayed or behind. Pairing terminates at 2130, you have 9 hrs 30 minutes of rest at the overnight...According to whitlow, you can't leave for your last flight unless in the preceeding 24 hours you have the required rest. In this case you exceeded 9 hours block, your required rest would be 11 hours. If you look back in the preceeding 24 hours (2130-730 = 10hrs rest in prev. 24 hrs) you wouldn't have the required rest for it. You'd be on reduced rest for 9 hours of block time. Does this then mean that you must have compensatory rest at that overnight? (24hrs hours from when your required rest was reduced)
Two day trip, the show time is 7:30...scheduled block is 7hrs 55 minutes, scheduled duty is 14hrs. On this particular pairing you end up actually blocking 9 hours 4 minutes, and you are never at anypoint delayed or behind. Pairing terminates at 2130, you have 9 hrs 30 minutes of rest at the overnight...According to whitlow, you can't leave for your last flight unless in the preceeding 24 hours you have the required rest. In this case you exceeded 9 hours block, your required rest would be 11 hours. If you look back in the preceeding 24 hours (2130-730 = 10hrs rest in prev. 24 hrs) you wouldn't have the required rest for it. You'd be on reduced rest for 9 hours of block time. Does this then mean that you must have compensatory rest at that overnight? (24hrs hours from when your required rest was reduced)
Compensatory rest must begin no later than 24 hours after the reduced rest began, not after "from when your required rest was reduced". You can get 9 hours reduced rest tonight, then get compensatory rest the following night, starting NLT 2130.
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