ANR Headsets
I'm thinking of purchasing an ANR headset (I'm an -800 guy, and it's loud in there!).
After looking at websites for the Lightspeed, Bose, David Clark, and Telex ANR headsets, all I've learned is that the respective companies are capable of hiring people who write good advertising copy. Are there any sites out there with relatively recent comparisons? Are you happy with the one you use? Bueller? Bueller? |
Try JH Audio. He invented the inner ear mic for the music industry back in the 80's. They are the absolute best you can buy. But, you'll pay dearly.
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I enjoy my Lightspeed Zulu. I've found the Bose to be similar in noise cancellation (have swapped in flight multiple times to get a good comparison), but I personally feel the zulu is a bit more comfortable. I know a lot of you jet guys don't like full headsets, but I've never been tired of it after up to 9.5 hours of flight time. I also appreciate the music input, and the fact that it auto dims (or reduces in volume, anyway) when an ATC or intercom input is present.
I'd try on the Zulu and the bose, and I think bose has a new version out as well. I don't think you'll be disappointed with either. Coming from a piston and turboprop guy... Good luck! |
Best headset I've used in a semi loud flight deck (CRJ and Q400) is the Bose QC2 and UFlyMike setup. Works very well. Bose X was overkill and to big for the flight case, and I didn't care for the Telex ANR 850. Didn't like it resting on my ears. Good luck.
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is the Bose QC2 and UFlyMike setup tso"d Thought I heard some airlines dont allow it It would be ashame to spend all that $ and not be able to use it .em
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There are many threads discussing all the popular brands of ANR headsets at APC. Just use the search window at the upper left to locate.
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For the kind of money they command Sennheiser is a fine headset, HMEC-461 for propeller driven airplanes. I've had DC's over the years, but grew tired of sending them in for wiring reapirs.
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Check out the Clarity aloft. Quieter than a bose, but feels like you're wearing nothing.
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Originally Posted by bcaviator
(Post 882850)
Check out the Clarity aloft. Quieter than a bose, but feels like you're wearing nothing.
I just got mine last week. I love it. Very nice. |
Originally Posted by AmericanEagleFO
(Post 882923)
+1
I just got mine last week. I love it. Very nice. |
FYI There is a guy selling his QC2 and ufly on another site because his airline prohibits it.... its not TSOD
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Originally Posted by featheredprop
(Post 884072)
FYI There is a guy selling his QC2 and ufly on another site because his airline prohibits it.... its not TSOD
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Hes also posted on another site
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Sigh . . . the UFlyMike w/ QC2 is TSO'd
Originally Posted by featheredprop
(Post 884072)
FYI There is a guy selling his QC2 and ufly on another site because his airline prohibits it.... its not TSOD
Originally Posted by FlyingPirate
(Post 883800)
Bose QC15 headphones and Uflymike combo.
The UFLYMike with the QC2 is TSO'd if you have the stickers on it (you have to send it to UFlyMike) and use the earbud (which you can purchase from UFlyMike for a great price, can't beat it anywhere) - go to my explaination on the forum of it here, or just go to the UFlyMike website (scroll down to the section about TSO'd, or PM me and I'll answer any questions you have). I don't work for UFlyMike, I'm just on self-nominated forum patrol to stamp out the rumor that the UFlyMike isn't TSO'd. Works great in a 737. The headset was designed by a Southwest pilot, after all.:) |
I just spoke with someone at UFlyMike earlier today and was told that the Bose QC-15 will be Tso'd in his estimates "two weeks." I'm looking forward to trying it out. As mentioned previously, your headphones need to be sent in to be tested together as a complete unit to be legally Tso'd.
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Originally Posted by Sniper
(Post 896186)
The QC15 is not yet TSO'd. The QC2 is TSO'd.
from the UFM website: 11.05.10 UFlyMike Receives TSO Certification with the QC-15: The FAA has issued another TSO Authorization for the UFlyMike Aviation Headset using the Bose QuietComfort 15 (QC-15) Headphones, and the Westone UM1 Earbuds. If you fly for an air carrier that requires use of TSO'd headsets, contact UFlyMike for details. |
Originally Posted by bcaviator
(Post 882850)
Check out the Clarity aloft. Quieter than a bose, but feels like you're wearing nothing.
-top-of-the-head style headsets, I'm sure my preference would still be the CA. |
The UFLYMike with the QC2 is TSO'd if you have the stickers on it (you have to send it to UFlyMike) and use the earbud (which you can purchase from UFlyMike for a great price, can't beat it anywhere) - go to my explaination on the forum of it here, or just go to the UFlyMike website (scroll down to the section about TSO'd, or PM me and I'll answer any questions you have).
[/QUOTE] Apparently the port on the mike adapter is both an input and an output. If you plug an earbud into that port, it should provide ATC reception even with a dead battery. I don't know if the mic will still work but I'm going to find out today. |
Originally Posted by Undaunted
(Post 1346207)
Apparently the port on the mike adapter is both an input and an output. If you plug an earbud into that port, it should provide ATC reception even with a dead battery. I don't know if the mic will still work but I'm going to find out today.
The UFlyMike (with the headphones) is the 'headset'. The Bose QC15 is merely the 'headband'. Just like you can use a Telex 5x5 without the headband (clip it onto your glasses or onto a piece of plastic attached to your custom earbud), you can use the UFlyMike without one too. Bose doesn't like that there's a way to have a Bose ANR headset without buying their $1000 model, so they've done EVERYTHING they can do to try to put UFlyMike out of business. The weakness of the UFlyMike set-up is the QC15 won't play audio when the battery is dead (there's a light that blinks at you for 5 hours before the battery dies, so you'd have to be an idiot to miss it. Naturally, when something's almost idiot proof, FAA is on the case). So, first Bose went after UFlyMike for that - and UFlyMike added the earbuds. The latest thing is this TSO'd nonsense. So, now, the whole headset is TSO'd - they literally just put stickers on the headset, that makes it TSO'd! The kicker of it is:
So, essentially, 90% of us are using non-TSO'd headsets. Somehow, planes are not falling out of the sky. It's a silly game that Bose is playing to try to get pilots to use the $1000 Bose headset. Bose isn't going after any of the other headset makers. Just look at this thread: the clarity aloft headset isn't TSO'd (the Pro is, but not the original) - guys still recommend it. Does anyone mention its not TSO'd? Nope. Who cares!? Did anyone make sure to tell you the UFlyMike is not TSO'd (which is wrong, it is) - of course. It is amazing how effective Bose's disinformation campaign has been! Again, I don't work for a headset company. I just find it beyond the pale that, on the 'technical' portion of APC, pilots are spreading Bose's disinformation campaign. |
Westone, the folks that do custom in-ear stuff for major musicians do a headset conversion that's supposed to be very good. USAF is using it in some aircraft.
Not used it myself, so can't speak to it. I have BoseX and it's fine. I'd like something lighter for the long haul legs, but for now, it works and the price was right for me.... ;) |
I have the U-Fly-Mike setup and knew that it was TSO if used with the earbuds. I was not aware however that you actually are supposed to send your whole headset to them and get a sticker. Good to know. Also, a little silly if you ask me, but given how important communications are, it is better safe than sorry.
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I used the QC2 and the UFM for a few years on the 737. The UFM unit itself is solidly built and works well. However, as an FO, I really hated the fact that it is a "Captain" headset; got to have it on the left ear. The cable must be routed in such a way that it doesn't get clamped/tangled with the seat and shoulder straps, which is a hassle.
The mike itself is positioned too low, IMO, and cannot be swiveled. The QC2/QC15 has awesome ANR and great audio quality, but the plastic brackets that hold the cups to the head bands are weak, and can and do break. They did twice on me. I went through two QC2 units before I finally chucked the whole setup and bought a Telex 850. It is a fine setup. I hope the guy who makes them is making buckets of cash. But the system does have some drawbacks, I am afraid. |
Just ordered my Clarity Aloft Pro yesterday. Looking forward to using it. :)
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I've used the QC-15 with uflymic for some time, and it works just dandy...and yes, it's TSO'd.
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