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Old 12-12-2006, 08:15 AM
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I've noticed a number of Airbus (cargo and passenger) that will literally come to a complete stop on the runway after landing.

During busy pushes, this can really lead to some excitement in the Tower. The Local and Ground Controllers are often coordinating with each other to have a landing aircraft follow a taxiing aircraft at a specific intersection; there might be another landing aircraft on short final or the Tower Controller might have an aircraft slotted for immediate takeoff.

When an aircraft comes to a complete stop on the runway, we are wonding what is happening out there. The aircraft then comes up on the power and slowly inches off the runway -- while the Local Controller sits poised with his thumb on the mike button waiting for the "GO AROUND!" or "CLEARED FOR IMMEDIATE TAKEOFF!" command to be transmitted.

Can someone shed some light on the subject? It's always an Airbus.

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Cause they're underbuilt French pieces of sh*t.. but other than that I dont know
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Originally Posted by MEM_ATC View Post
I've noticed a number of Airbus (cargo and passenger) that will literally come to a complete stop on the runway after landing.

During busy pushes, this can really lead to some excitement in the Tower. The Local and Ground Controllers are often coordinating with each other to have a landing aircraft follow a taxiing aircraft at a specific intersection; there might be another landing aircraft on short final or the Tower Controller might have an aircraft slotted for immediate takeoff.

When an aircraft comes to a complete stop on the runway, we are wonding what is happening out there. The aircraft then comes up on the power and slowly inches off the runway -- while the Local Controller sits poised with his thumb on the mike button waiting for the "GO AROUND!" or "CLEARED FOR IMMEDIATE TAKEOFF!" command to be transmitted.

Can someone shed some light on the subject? It's always an Airbus.

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NOTE: Crossposted to "Majors" forum.
I flew it for 9 years with FEDEX and didn't do anything different than in every other airplane.....I don't know what you saw, but it should be doing the same as every other airplane...
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The max taxi speed for a 90 degree turn is 10 kts. It may look like a stop, but it not required.
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Originally Posted by KiloAlpha View Post
Cause they're underbuilt French pieces of sh*t.. but other than that I dont know
You fly a SF340 and claim an A310 is underpowered? I have about waaaay more than enough SF340 time to know that if anything is underpowered, it's the 'SLOB'-340. The only time I've seen an A310 act like a SF340 is on a 120+ degree day fully bagged out in DXB - and then it still performs reasonably well.

My guess to the answer of the original question is also the 10kt limitation for 90 degree turns - it probably looks like a full stop but it really isn't.
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ummmm, he said underbuilt
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I'm too lazy to repost.See Major forum.
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:07 AM
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I don't know for sure, but it could be the autobrakes. I know I have forgotten about them (first transitioning into the ac), and a few others have too! The airbus' autobrakes will bring the aircraft to a COMPLETE STOP if you forget to push the brake pedals to de-activate them (usually around 70 knots for us). I did it once in LGA, but at the last second, remembered to push the pedals, so didn't come to a complete stop, but close enough to make the Captain, and I am sure the contoller, a little "puckered".
Here! I did it for you. And I didn't type everything out. *copy-and-paste*
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Cause they're underbuilt French pieces of sh*t.. but other than that I dont know
Excellent observation devoid of any facts such as the engines and systems are mostly US made and the airplane have components which make it about 50/50 on origin of components. And too... the fact that the Boeings (such as the 777) are contructed from components around the world.
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Cause they're underbuilt French pieces of sh*t.. but other than that I dont know
i like flying this POS..and props are for boats!!!!!!
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