Hand flying a SID...?
01-03-2016, 03:57 PM
#22
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As stated from a few others, flying a SID with or without AP is not stated specifically in the FARs, but may be viewed through company policy. However, I agree with Dreamfighter's statement about using AP to reduce workload. Although hand flying a SID may not be demanding at all; it is important to be efficient by utilizing any and all tools/info. that is accessible. It seems to me that a pilot would become more efficient by monitoring the AP as it progressed through the SID; meanwhile, the pilot could also continue his/her scan on other instruments, to make sure everything is "up to par" and in good condition.
01-03-2016, 04:42 PM
#23
Are we there yet??!!
Joined APC: Apr 2006
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
You want workload, try flying a NAT crossing, US to Germany some night.
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If you have CPDLC, I really feel bad as your typing finger might get a little sore.
01-04-2016, 08:34 AM
#27
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Originally Posted by ajcucinella
As stated from a few others, flying a SID with or without AP is not stated specifically in the FARs, but may be viewed through company policy. However, I agree with Dreamfighter's statement about using AP to reduce workload. Although hand flying a SID may not be demanding at all; it is important to be efficient by utilizing any and all tools/info. that is accessible. It seems to me that a pilot would become more efficient by monitoring the AP as it progressed through the SID; meanwhile, the pilot could also continue his/her scan on other instruments, to make sure everything is "up to par" and in good condition.
01-04-2016, 01:45 PM
#29
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Posts: 52
Pre flight planning. But don't get locked into a mind set. Every time I am in Frankfurt I study 2 of the (16+) sids. It never fails I get one I have not tabbed or looked at. So I taxi slow. I go head down other guy taxis, then visa versa.
I am not ashamed to say: not ready. take the penalty box, or get re sequenced.
I go when I am positive I am all dialed up. I go. I have never tripped a noise sensor. ATC at JFK and EDAF have never " needed to help me" with a turn now at Canarsey etc.
My favorite is last minute changes. Lovely on a star in the weather.
I am not ashamed to say: not ready. take the penalty box, or get re sequenced.
I go when I am positive I am all dialed up. I go. I have never tripped a noise sensor. ATC at JFK and EDAF have never " needed to help me" with a turn now at Canarsey etc.
My favorite is last minute changes. Lovely on a star in the weather.
01-04-2016, 02:19 PM
#30
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: 747 Captain (Ret,)
Posts: 804
Originally Posted by Thedude
So you are in the NAT with no auto-pilot.
Better not be in MNPS airspace.
Better not be in MNPS airspace.
I have done this, back in the mists of time, and well before RVSM.
Joe
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