FlyingKat

I think you are way underestimating the hardball games that Deltas executives are willing to play. Just look at what they have done with Mesa and Pinnacle/Mesaba/Endeavor. They are masters at maneuvering around these contracts. You are right, Delta does not need to purchase Gojet. However you are wrong in saying Delta has to wait till the contract runs out to move the planes. Delta could have moved the Comair planes long ago based on Gojets abysmal performance during the Lufthansa fiasco. The only reason they haven't is Endeavor hasn't been able to staff them. The only reason Delta was interested in purchasing Gojet was so they could move the planes with the pilots, but that didn't work because of Hulas' insistence on selling all 3 certificates. A big reason Endeavor got these new rates was to help them staff new flying. We will see if it works when everybody else matches those rates to keep their pilots from being poached.

FlyingKat

Didn't you hear? FO says he talked to HK personally and the merger isn't happening. Oh and the Richmond base is never going to close either.

SirLurksalot

Did you read a word of what the guy above you said?

FlyingKat

No since it was posted at the same time as my post. It says what I have said all along. Delta can take those planes at any time because of performance. The Gojet planes have not been moved to Endeavor because they can't staff the flying. Their interest in buying Gojet came about because Endeavor couldn't staff it. That fell apart over TSH insistence that all 3 certificates be a part of the deal. If a Republic deal happens it remains to be seen if they can staff it without the Gojet pilots. Delta is not going to take those pilots unless they need them. Of course they would prefer to hire them as new hires all over again. But they may decide to hedge their bets and just take them all to make sure the company is staffed.

SirLurksalot

I see that you still didnt read what the guy above you said that time, edv didnt take them previously due to higher priority items. This is still going on with asa 7/900 deliveries. This will end this summer. Then there will be nothing that is more of priority so you will hear about the g7 700s

gojo

No Delta can’t take those planes at any time because of performance. They have threatened to a few times. But each time they got their $h!t together. Now GoJet performance isn’t too bad. So that’s not an option. They’ll have to wait for the contract to expire or purchase them. Personally, I think it’ll be the former option. I believe I’ve been told that the contract expires this summer? Not sure though

KelvinHelmholtz

Endeavor can staff the flying. There is no shortage of applications here with the new TA, and plenty of people are being turned down.

FlyingKat

The time period that Delta was trying to purchase Gojet and Compass was well before the TA.

FlyingKat

Not sure if you've ever been anywhere that had flying taken away, but once you violate the contract, its violated. There are no second chances. Gojet violated their contract several times, and because of that Delta can take flying away whenever they want. Their current performance can't make up for the fact that the contract was violated several times in the past. Delta can enforce their rights under the contract whenever they want to until and unless they negotiate a new contract with new terms.

FlyingKat

Right, they chose to staff other things and didn't have enough to staff the Comair 700s. It. is. the. same. thing. If they had the staffing to cover it all they would have. Since they didn't they looked at buying Gojet, but it fell apart for reasons already stated.