Search
Notices
Trans States Airlines Regional Airline

TSA merger

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-09-2018, 06:14 PM
  #191  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,648
Default

Originally Posted by FlyingKat View Post
Not sure if you've ever been anywhere that had flying taken away, but once you violate the contract, its violated. There are no second chances. Gojet violated their contract several times, and because of that Delta can take flying away whenever they want. Their current performance can't make up for the fact that the contract was violated several times in the past. Delta can enforce their rights under the contract whenever they want to until and unless they negotiate a new contract with new terms.
Now, neither of us knows for sure the terms of contract do we? Is it not meeting performance criteria for a month, six months? Only Delta and GoJet can answer that definitively. If GoJet got close to breaking a performance metric, but then improved just enough to stay within the performance guidelines, Delta can’t exercise their rights to nullify the contract. When was the last time Delta was able to do that. Freedom Airlines I believe? And their performance was much worse than GoJet’s ever was. Even then, Freedom/Mesa tried to sue Delta for not honoring the contract. So yes, I’m very familiar with how the contract/regional sector works. And I also know how hard it is to break a contract
gojo is offline  
Old 02-09-2018, 07:08 PM
  #192  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2011
Position: Taco Rocket Operator
Posts: 2,485
Default

Originally Posted by gojo View Post
Now, neither of us knows for sure the terms of contract do we? Is it not meeting performance criteria for a month, six months? Only Delta and GoJet can answer that definitively. If GoJet got close to breaking a performance metric, but then improved just enough to stay within the performance guidelines, Delta can’t exercise their rights to nullify the contract. When was the last time Delta was able to do that. Freedom Airlines I believe? And their performance was much worse than GoJet’s ever was. Even then, Freedom/Mesa tried to sue Delta for not honoring the contract. So yes, I’m very familiar with how the contract/regional sector works. And I also know how hard it is to break a contract
I think you underestimate how enraged Delta was over the whole Lufthansa fiasco. And I remember what a dumpster fire Freedom was, but I don't ever remember Delta telling their crews not to use Freedom to commute because they are so unreliable. And no, Freedom never had a meltdown like Gojet had when they started using Lufthansa. Yes they tried to sue, but weren't successful. Those Delta execs are brutal and play a mean game. Being a Mesaba/Pinnacle/Colgan/Endeavor employee you should know how Delta enjoys giving people the royal screw. Gojet won't be the first carcass on their wall. We'll see what happens and leave it at that....
FlyingKat is offline  
Old 02-09-2018, 09:27 PM
  #193  
2 days off
 
minimwage4's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: Embraer Systems Analyst
Posts: 1,853
Default

Originally Posted by FlyingKat View Post
I think you underestimate how enraged Delta was over the whole Lufthansa fiasco.
How do you know??? Half if not most of the stuff you’re saying is pure speculation.
minimwage4 is offline  
Old 02-09-2018, 09:37 PM
  #194  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2011
Position: Taco Rocket Operator
Posts: 2,485
Default

Originally Posted by minimwage4 View Post
How do you know??? Half if not most of the stuff you’re saying is pure speculation.
Its not hard to know what goes on around here if you keep your ears open and pay attention.
FlyingKat is offline  
Old 02-09-2018, 09:40 PM
  #195  
2 days off
 
minimwage4's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: Embraer Systems Analyst
Posts: 1,853
Default

Originally Posted by FlyingKat View Post
Its not hard to know what goes on around here if you keep your ears open and pay attention.
Yea ok? You’ve been in Gojet meetings with Delta execs while flying the line at TSA.
minimwage4 is offline  
Old 02-09-2018, 10:09 PM
  #196  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2011
Position: Taco Rocket Operator
Posts: 2,485
Default

Originally Posted by minimwage4 View Post
Yea ok? You’ve been in Gojet meetings with Delta execs while flying the line at TSA.
We'll see what happens. Have a nice day.
FlyingKat is offline  
Old 02-09-2018, 10:13 PM
  #197  
2 days off
 
minimwage4's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: Embraer Systems Analyst
Posts: 1,853
Default

Originally Posted by FlyingKat View Post
We'll see what happens. Have a nice day.
I’ll have a nice day when you admit you don’t really know anything.
minimwage4 is offline  
Old 02-09-2018, 10:43 PM
  #198  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2011
Position: Taco Rocket Operator
Posts: 2,485
Default

Originally Posted by minimwage4 View Post
I’ll have a nice day when you admit you don’t really know anything.
Good luck. Gonna be a while.
FlyingKat is offline  
Old 02-10-2018, 06:34 AM
  #199  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,099
Default

Originally Posted by FlyingKat View Post
I think you underestimate how enraged Delta was over the whole Lufthansa fiasco. And I remember what a dumpster fire Freedom was, but I don't ever remember Delta telling their crews not to use Freedom to commute because they are so unreliable. And no, Freedom never had a meltdown like Gojet had when they started using Lufthansa. Yes they tried to sue, but weren't successful. Those Delta execs are brutal and play a mean game. Being a Mesaba/Pinnacle/Colgan/Endeavor employee you should know how Delta enjoys giving people the royal screw. Gojet won't be the first carcass on their wall. We'll see what happens and leave it at that....
What happened with GoJet and Lufthansa? That seems like a weird pairing.
TheWeatherman is offline  
Old 02-10-2018, 06:44 AM
  #200  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2014
Posts: 219
Default

Originally Posted by TheWeatherman View Post
What happened with GoJet and Lufthansa? That seems like a weird pairing.
Lufthansa is the scheduling and dispatch program that TSH uses. When GoJet implemented it, all went to hell circa December 2015

Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
SevereClear1 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Ferd149
Mergers and Acquisitions
117
11-08-2023 07:41 AM
cactiboss
American
35
09-03-2013 06:27 AM
APC225
United
92
12-22-2012 04:29 AM
skippy
GoJet
14
05-14-2009 11:12 AM
skippy
GoJet
4
05-11-2009 08:55 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices