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Old 09-28-2019 | 09:45 AM
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I'm approaching minimums R-ATP (Army rotary) and live in a small Republic base but have not met the requirements to interview just yet. I know living in base is huge but I'm attracted to the amount of flying and upgrade times at TSA and could commute to any of the three bases relatively easily. I'm curious about the ramifications if I go for the seniority reservation day and then receive a CJO and decide to go to Republic instead? Is there any obligation upon attending that one day and could it be looked at negatively down the road if my record shows only a couple of months at a company before moving on?
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Old 09-28-2019 | 01:35 PM
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Who is your first choice? Sounds like you need to work that out maybe? Commuting apparently always sucks but I’m commuting for TSA from DFW so *insert irony here*
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I'm a Trans States Aviator (college program) and had this question myself recently. I asked around with some of the people in St. Louis and the answer isn't a very good one. Attending day 1 of the Seniority Reserve program counts as beginning training. If you opt out of the program after you reserve your seniority, it'll show up as a training failure on your pilot record. There's some good Pro's to working with TSA, message me for some more info.
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Old 09-28-2019 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Benstein
I'm a Trans States Aviator (college program) and had this question myself recently. I asked around with some of the people in St. Louis and the answer isn't a very good one. Attending day 1 of the Seniority Reserve program counts as beginning training. If you opt out of the program after you reserve your seniority, it'll show up as a training failure on your pilot record. There's some good Pro's to working with TSA, message me for some more info.
Did you do the seniority reserve program?
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Originally Posted by Benstein
I'm a Trans States Aviator (college program) and had this question myself recently. I asked around with some of the people in St. Louis and the answer isn't a very good one. Attending day 1 of the Seniority Reserve program counts as beginning training. If you opt out of the program after you reserve your seniority, it'll show up as a training failure on your pilot record. There's some good Pro's to working with TSA, message me for some more info.
That was my fear and exactly what I needed to know. Thank you!
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Who is your first choice? Sounds like you need to work that out maybe? Commuting apparently always sucks but I’m commuting for TSA from DFW so *insert irony here*
I've been trying to figure that out for a while. It basically comes down to whether I want to grind it out to make major minimums and hopefully make the jump as quickly as possible or spend several months on reserve and delay the upgrade by a couple years but be comfortable living in base?

In essence, I can go somewhere that I wouldn't mind getting stuck, but doing so would increase my chances of getting stuck by taking longer to become competitive. If that makes any sense. Any insight/advice would be greatly appreciated!
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Originally Posted by Md5drivr
Did you do the seniority reserve program?
I'm not enrolled in it currently, but I've asked some of the program coordinators about it for the exact same reason OP is asking about.
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Originally Posted by Benstein
I'm a Trans States Aviator (college program) and had this question myself recently. I asked around with some of the people in St. Louis and the answer isn't a very good one. Attending day 1 of the Seniority Reserve program counts as beginning training. If you opt out of the program after you reserve your seniority, it'll show up as a training failure on your pilot record. There's some good Pro's to working with TSA, message me for some more info.
Ok, so I’m a bit confused. They are saying that if you start and reserve your seniority, then decide it’s not for you this shows up as a training failure?

If anything it will show up in your Pria that you worked there yet did not complete training. That’s not the same as a failure. Failures only come from written, oral, checkride, and linecheck failures. If you haven’t done any of those, what could they possibly say you failed?
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I've been trying to figure that out for a while. It basically comes down to whether I want to grind it out to make major minimums and hopefully make the jump as quickly as possible or spend several months on reserve and delay the upgrade by a couple years but be comfortable living in base?

In essence, I can go somewhere that I wouldn't mind getting stuck, but doing so would increase my chances of getting stuck by taking longer to become competitive. If that makes any sense. Any insight/advice would be greatly appreciated!
Well for my decision it came down to fastest upgrade, most options for extra work, and then commute. Keeping in mind I have no “family” and my fiancé is a major FA. So for me personally that was the fastest route to a major and staying financially secure. Gotta figure out your priorities.

To your point, if seniority is everything, it applied at regionals and majors. Better to be quick IMO
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Ok, so I’m a bit confused. They are saying that if you start and reserve your seniority, then decide it’s not for you this shows up as a training failure?

If anything it will show up in your Pria that you worked there yet did not complete training. That’s not the same as a failure. Failures only come from written, oral, checkride, and linecheck failures. If you haven’t done any of those, what could they possibly say you failed?
You're right. Forgive me for not remembering the exact wording.
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