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Old 01-13-2008 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Atreyu
This is known as rationalizing.

I commute for this job, but all that matters is I'll be in the March upgrade class. Upgrade took me 15 mos, and only that long because I never flew because I could drop everything with my seniority, and cared only about QOL. In May I had 24 days off, and I always got DFI.

I'd love it if I was at Skywest seeing that I live in Chicago, but who cares? I'll have my upgrade here, get my PIC time, and gtfo. Regionals are for one thing, and one thing only, and that's to get your 121 experience and multi-turbine time. It's just the step after being a CFI to get your total time anyway.

ok so what is the definition of rationalizing again!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?
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Old 01-13-2008 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by WILLTinbound

But in light of the recent events, age 65 and industry consolidation (which is apparently on our doorstep), arent you a least a little concerned that you might be stuck at the crappy regional job for longer than you might have anticipated? yeah, you'll have upgraded in 15 months, but if you're still stuck at TSA after 7 or 8 years (like a lot the captains I flew with when I was there) are you still gonna be happy with your QOL? Commuting to fly for Hulas doesnt keep a lot of people happy. We're all on the same page, I wouldve been a captain for Hulas long ago, but I know I'm happier at Skywest and not commuting anymore, left seat or not.. and I dont think I'm rationalizing.. Just wondering if your concerned about something like that.. what happens if you can't just "gtfo" as you so eloquently put it..
Yeah, I'm a little concerned about having to be here 8 or 9 years before moving on. But my goal is to be at x, y, or z airline...and as I saw it TSA is the best place to be to get there asap. If it doesn't work out like that, or I get stuck at TSA for a long time, or TSA closes its doors in a few years then so be it. I'm young and I'll have time to recover. All anyone can do is spend some time analyzing their situation and go with what they believe is the best for them and their family.
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Old 01-13-2008 | 03:23 PM
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Some would say "get ur PIC and get out"....but there are many angles.....you have to see what's best for you and your family at the time you're applying.

Many of my buds (both low and high time) don't mind going to a regional that has massive pilot group and a long upgrade because they figure that they're still young and will make it to the majors 'one day' ,and, when they get there still have enough time for at least 30yrs mainline.

Others (both low and high time) who want to get to a major quickly want to go somewhere where they feel they will get a quick upgrade, as a long stint at a regional is not an option for them. With this option many have to trade off pay & QOL

There are so many different opinions floating around on this site, and although i respect all of them, everyone is different, and everyone's situation is different. (If your gonna bash someone for their decision, you better know the whole story)

One person might put up with getting pushed around by his/her company cos he feels obtaining PIC is the golden time,.......well o.k for them....what? I'm supposed to be mad at him/her?..... another might say...'I don't need this $h!t' i'd rather wait it out somewhere else and take longer to get to a major, than stay here'.......again...what? I'm supposed to laugh at them and say 'I'm gonna be in the majors before you?'

again....so many angles and so many opinions....remember though that the one that matters is your's and your family's

on a side note every one of the pilots I've met here have bent over backwards to help out the new hires

just my $0.02
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Old 01-13-2008 | 03:30 PM
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Like I said earlier, people always look at the positive aspects of their choices. I mean seriously, do you think anyone would come on here and post that they were a moron for the career choices they have made? I wasn't singling out POPA in my previous post, but he took it personally anyway.
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Old 01-13-2008 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Zach
Like I said earlier, people always look at the positive aspects of their choices. I mean seriously, do you think anyone would come on here and post that they were a moron for the career choices they have made? I wasn't singling out POPA in my previous post, but he took it personally anyway.
I hope I never have to say that about myself...I'll let you know when I retire.
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Old 01-13-2008 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Zach
Like I said earlier, people always look at the positive aspects of their choices. I mean seriously, do you think anyone would come on here and post that they were a moron for the career choices they have made? I wasn't singling out POPA in my previous post, but he took it personally anyway.
I'm feel like a moron for getting an aviation degree. Does that count?
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Old 01-13-2008 | 04:20 PM
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almost agree with freezing, feel like a moron for getting that degree? Not 100%, but think the $$ would have been spent better on a different degree? agree 100%. As far as how i feel at TSA...Eh, it's alright. Reserve life sucks, being on the bottom of the list again sucks, knowing the movement towards the top will be much much much slower than it was as an FO sucks. If the industry slows down it does, this job enables me to stick to the plans that i have in front of me, i can't guarantee anything in this industry, just have to make the best decision possible, and go from there.
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Old 01-13-2008 | 05:13 PM
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Sounds like you guy really have it bad
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Old 01-13-2008 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ScaryKite
i am much happier beeing in the right seat here at CHQ looking to upgrade in less than a year, than sitting in the left seat at TRans Mistakes getting junior manned, bending over, and flying with a bunch of.....bitter people, dont get me wrong the pilot group at TSA is phenominal but they do a lot of b******* and moaning. oh yeah and flying with people that have wet temporary commercial certificates would be a blasty as well! Yeah hindsight is 20 20 and i sometimes i wish i would have stayed for the "upgrade" at TSA but i would have upgraded there with less than 2000 total, 1 year of 121 experience, 1 icing season, and 1 thunderstorm season. i am glad i am holding out a little bit!
You know whats funny? I have never been jr-ed. I noticed the people that are the most miserable are the ones that complain the most and will never be happy no matter what.

So life throws you a couple of lemons... make lemonade.
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Old 01-13-2008 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by POPA
I have yet to meet one person who thinks that way.



I see my former classmates all the time. I almost went to CHQ but I am glad I stayed.


I find it hard to believe that you don't have a single lick of regret for leaving. All of the TSA bashing is getting pretty old as well.
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