Trans States Furloughing 2009
11-05-2008 | 04:29 PM
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Everything AMR has is for sale.... didn't you know that? In their own words during a press conference when asked to quote a price for Eagle...
"you can't afford it." But yes, there is a vast difference between being employed at a regional where your paycheck comes from the same bank account as mainline, than when it comes from some regional that happens to have the flying by trying to undercut the next company....
The mainlines will have their regional feed one way or another. We can keep accepting jobs from lowlife scumbags types like (insert name here), and helping him get rich while accelerating the race to the bottom, or you can get some self respect and do what's right in the first place... when the lowlife Companies go away, the owned companies will just grow larger.
It's basically the same arguement Mainlines have been saying about regionals for decades... that we are stealing the flying... and nobody believed them.... I'm sure if you ask a few Midwest pilots, they may be able to explain the long term detramental effects of outsourcing.... be it outsourcing to replace a little plane, or a big plane....
"you can't afford it." But yes, there is a vast difference between being employed at a regional where your paycheck comes from the same bank account as mainline, than when it comes from some regional that happens to have the flying by trying to undercut the next company....
The mainlines will have their regional feed one way or another. We can keep accepting jobs from lowlife scumbags types like (insert name here), and helping him get rich while accelerating the race to the bottom, or you can get some self respect and do what's right in the first place... when the lowlife Companies go away, the owned companies will just grow larger.
It's basically the same arguement Mainlines have been saying about regionals for decades... that we are stealing the flying... and nobody believed them.... I'm sure if you ask a few Midwest pilots, they may be able to explain the long term detramental effects of outsourcing.... be it outsourcing to replace a little plane, or a big plane....
I can not begin to express my enthusiasm for my next van ride with one of you types. I have definitely met some decent Eagle guys but it seems like y'all have a disproportionate number of obnoxious d-bags. I don't get the "if you ain't wholly owned, ya ain't schnit" attitude. I really don't. You may be wholly owned but that still just makes you the ultimate B-scale employee. Good for you. For the record I work for one of the worthless undercutting scumbag non-wholly owned operators (XJT). Get off it dude.Sorry for the thread drift, just had to vent. With all this talk of TSA furloughing, does that mean the option of combining GoJet and TSA seniority lists (as distasteful as it is) is off the table? I feel for you TSA guys getting furloughed while spineless jet-A "wannabes" are still getting hired at Gojet. Burns me up.
11-05-2008 | 04:35 PM
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From: A320 gear monkey
11-05-2008 | 04:44 PM
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Wow...another winning personality from Eagle. I can not begin to express my enthusiasm for my next van ride with one of you types. I have definitely met some decent Eagle guys but it seems like y'all have a disproportionate number of obnoxious d-bags. I don't get the "if you ain't wholly owned, ya ain't schnit" attitude. I really don't. You may be wholly owned but that still just makes you the ultimate B-scale employee. Good for you. For the record I work for one of the worthless undercutting scumbag non-wholly owned operators (XJT). Get off it dude.
Sorry for the thread drift, just had to vent. With all this talk of TSA furloughing, does that mean the option of combining GoJet and TSA seniority lists (as distasteful as it is) is off the table? I feel for you TSA guys getting furloughed while spineless jet-A "wannabes" are still getting hired at Gojet. Burns me up.
I can not begin to express my enthusiasm for my next van ride with one of you types. I have definitely met some decent Eagle guys but it seems like y'all have a disproportionate number of obnoxious d-bags. I don't get the "if you ain't wholly owned, ya ain't schnit" attitude. I really don't. You may be wholly owned but that still just makes you the ultimate B-scale employee. Good for you. For the record I work for one of the worthless undercutting scumbag non-wholly owned operators (XJT). Get off it dude.Sorry for the thread drift, just had to vent. With all this talk of TSA furloughing, does that mean the option of combining GoJet and TSA seniority lists (as distasteful as it is) is off the table? I feel for you TSA guys getting furloughed while spineless jet-A "wannabes" are still getting hired at Gojet. Burns me up.
11-05-2008 | 04:44 PM
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Wow...another winning personality from Eagle. I can not begin to express my enthusiasm for my next van ride with one of you types. I have definitely met some decent Eagle guys but it seems like y'all have a disproportionate number of obnoxious d-bags. I don't get the "if you ain't wholly owned, ya ain't schnit" attitude. I really don't. You may be wholly owned but that still just makes you the ultimate B-scale employee. Good for you. For the record I work for one of the worthless undercutting scumbag non-wholly owned operators (XJT). Get off it dude.
Sorry for the thread drift, just had to vent. With all this talk of TSA furloughing, does that mean the option of combining GoJet and TSA seniority lists (as distasteful as it is) is off the table? I feel for you TSA guys getting furloughed while spineless jet-A "wannabes" are still getting hired at Gojet. Burns me up.
I can not begin to express my enthusiasm for my next van ride with one of you types. I have definitely met some decent Eagle guys but it seems like y'all have a disproportionate number of obnoxious d-bags. I don't get the "if you ain't wholly owned, ya ain't schnit" attitude. I really don't. You may be wholly owned but that still just makes you the ultimate B-scale employee. Good for you. For the record I work for one of the worthless undercutting scumbag non-wholly owned operators (XJT). Get off it dude.Sorry for the thread drift, just had to vent. With all this talk of TSA furloughing, does that mean the option of combining GoJet and TSA seniority lists (as distasteful as it is) is off the table? I feel for you TSA guys getting furloughed while spineless jet-A "wannabes" are still getting hired at Gojet. Burns me up.
11-05-2008 | 04:50 PM
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
I'm pretty sure the subject was never on the table to begin with. However, I am definitely trying to get the idea out there. I think one list is the best thing for TSA and GoJet right now, especially with Trans Staters getting kicked out the door and GoJetters hiring nubbin's (newbies). One list will give us some power we do not currently have.
11-05-2008 | 05:04 PM
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It's my understanding that HoJet was started to circumvent AA (or Eagle's) scope on flying 70 seaters. Since TSA is no longer flying for AA, HoJet has no reason to exist any more, correct?
I have to agree. Even as an (insert name here) pilot, what you're saying makes a lot of sense.
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Originally Posted by Mason32
The mainlines will have their regional feed one way or another. We can keep accepting jobs from lowlife scumbags types like (insert name here), and helping him get rich while accelerating the race to the bottom, or you can get some self respect and do what's right in the first place... when the lowlife Companies go away, the owned companies will just grow larger.
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11-05-2008 | 05:11 PM
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btw, just got my displacement call today. going to dulles on jan 5th. however, heard that a guy below me on the list isnt getting displaced until the 23rd, so i'm gonna call tomorrow and see if i was given the correct information.
Time for a LOA!...
11-05-2008 | 05:24 PM
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From: CRJ FO
Originally Posted by 250 or point 65
Dude, mix in a search and don't derail a thread about displacements with this GoJet bs.
Originally Posted by 250 or point 65
You have no right to call them HoJet if you have no idea what you are talking about. Read a lot, then call them HoJet all you want.
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11-05-2008 | 05:27 PM
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From: Devil's Advocate
That way, we would have the ability to move to the 70-seaters without violating the Eagle scope. But I'm sure if that's how it happened, Eagle guys would be p!ssed like none other and would be calling all of us "psuedo-scabs" for circumventing their scope clause.
I don't really care though because the -700's are all operated for United anyways, so it's not like they would be competing with American Beagle Boys.
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