bidnez

No, by going to Transstates you are condoning one of the worse contracts in the industry- you are naive if you think otherwise, or just plain lying. Well, the contract has been 'amendable' since 2000 obviously going nowhere since then. You didn't really think that by going there you could 'help out'.... LAUGH!!!!!!!

Scabs? Alter-Ego? As I stated before, and you conceded to; GoJet was going to be created REGARDLESS. It's purpose was to get around the American scope, not Transstates. Which, sorry- doesn't make them scabs or an Alter-Ego.

Blaming mainline guys isn't helping your case either.... kiddo.

bidnez

Calling another pilot group 'scabs' is hardly respectable... especially when they aren't.

flynavyj

neither is calling another poster "Kiddo", get off the high horse, and go get your flying back from us regionals. please.

Copperhed51

By supporting GJ, your are condoning the operation that helped keep our contract the way it is. If you read the beginning of this thread, you'll see that the contract negotiations are in fact going somewhere. That's why this thread was created in the first place...as an update to what's happening. Things are coming to a head and the with a little luck, the pilot group may prevail, who knows. And yes I do think I can help. Sorry if that bothers you. You obviously don't think you can help so you're trying to do the opposite...seems productive. Also, way to ignore what I said about GJ being created similar to the way Republic did it. There is a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things. I'm not sure you're grasping that point.

By the way, it's "worst" not "worse".



I didn't call the GJ pilots scabs. I was just saying a scab operation is not acceptable to go to. Calm down.

undflyboy06

I vote the thread to be closed. It has lost it's purpose and now it's open to the same old bashing *rap. TAKE IT TO A DIFFERENT THREAD EVERYONE

BURflyer

Copperhead, I see that you are a furloughed TSA pilot that has found refuge at Great Lakes? Have you applied to GojetSSS?

BURflyer

Oh ok well in order to make idiotic claims you have to back them up with facts. Again you can't just label something that isn't so. Like alter ego and pseudoscab. Do you know what an alter ego is and did alpa or a court of law confirm that gojetsss is an alter ego? Do you know what a scab is and has alpa or a court of law determined that GOjet flying is struck work? All this anger that cause people to make up their own labels could be used for something else.

All the GJ pilots in 2008/9 are no different than any other pilot looking for a job. It's like calling 2009 Southwest pilots SCABS or alterego union busting pilots for flying for a bottom feeding airline that put so many airlines out of business in the 70s and 80s.. Yes it make just as much sense in labeling current Gojet pilots since they have done none of those. it's in the past. Those guys in 05 truly did intend on stepping on other pilot's backs because it was all for seniority and they had a job at TSA. Now it's a completely different ballgame. I realize that this is an internet forum and it's not always going to be civil but come on.

flynavyj

BUR, you can easily be affected by something that happened before your time, it'd be progress vs. back tracking. We're not trying to reinvent the wheel here, however, most pilots at TSA would like to see this place in better shape than when they arrived. Some came for a quick upgrade, quick type rating, etc. I was lucky enough to get here before people started seeing upgrades just over the horizon, but won't be here when a contract is finally reached. Truth is, there's no shame in attempting to improve a situation (for the current TSA pilots, and the future ones) along with raising the bar for the industry.

If TSA goes the wayside, you can bet that the hulas' cronies will be turning their punching bag on gojet. They may not create another airline to fly larger airplanes (I can't see the point, passed a whipsaw) but i wouldn't start expecting you guys to become the next top tier regional either, nor expect the animosity to cease. In fact, if gojet effectively helps put an end to Trans States, then the "friendship" that gojet so quickly receives on this internet board might spread even further.

Positive_Rate

Guys...we've got to stop feeding these trolls. They come on here looking to rile up stuff by saying these ridiculous statements and wanting us to respond to them. I say we all just ignore people like BUR and bidnez... now I'm just a guilty as the next guy for feeding these things, and I'm going to try to stop, they're probably getting some sick pleasure out of saying this stuff and seeing our responses...toolbags.

flynavyj

honestly, i doubt anyone will change their mind about what's being said.

Back on topic, anything else important been discussed? I've been away for a few days.