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Old 06-07-2009, 10:26 PM
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Not really, but thats how things are going. My guess is that something will be pulled together in the 11th hour.

Our leverage is money. I don't know why so many guys seem confused about this. TSA makes Hulas money. Hulas likes money. Hulas needs money to expand GoJet. Shutting down TSA quickly hurts Hulas. We still have that leverage. If we don't use that leverage now, its going to be shut down slowly.
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Old 06-07-2009, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 View Post
Not really, but thats how things are going. My guess is that something will be pulled together in the 11th hour.

Our leverage is money. I don't know why so many guys seem confused about this. TSA makes Hulas money. Hulas likes money. Hulas needs money to expand GoJet. Shutting down TSA quickly hurts Hulas. We still have that leverage. If we don't use that leverage now, its going to be shut down slowly.
Well if he needs TSA for money as well as GJ for the whipsaw, why don't they just merge the two companies and imposes massive concessions like JO did for Mesa pilots when they merged with Freedom? They're even against that, do you think that's what will happen on the 11th hour? All I know is that with just this 50 seater certificate it's going to be a dead end for TSA.
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All I know is that with just this 50 seater certificate it's going to be a dead end for TSA.
The thing is, with the American Connection codeshare gone, there's no reason that TSA has to be a 50-seat only certificate...
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Its too bad you guys cant see.
The industry is too volatile for a strike!
You'll be shooting yourself in the foot, noone will pay attention, or get the sense of what you are trying to do.You will be seamrolled by united, as most of your flying has a better chance of going to gojets or any other UAX carrier as they will just move whatever flying they need covered over to whoever can take it.But good luck anyway.
Just remember Monday June 15th!-We'll see you out on the line!
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Originally Posted by BringDaFunk View Post
Its too bad you guys cant see....
Wow, man, what are you smoking? UA can't just route around it because none of the reputable companies are going to fly struck work... G7 is the only wildcard in there. As for the state of the industry, what does that have to do with contract negotiations between a pilot group and Hulas? The idea behind a strike is to deprive mgmt of operating revenues, not PR or public support or whatnot.

(Not to mention that, really, now might be the best time for something like that... After the colgan accident, the public just might be able to get behind a pilot group fighting for fair compensation, safer work rules, and job security.)
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Originally Posted by Purpleanga View Post
All I know is that with just this 50 seater certificate it's going to be a dead end for TSA.
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The thing is, with the American Connection codeshare gone, there's no reason that TSA has to be a 50-seat only certificate...
My God, again with the short sightedness.

When the going is good Hulas makes a TON of money on AX at risk flying. This flying is not something the Eagle guys can whine about because if Hulas is creating a route or frequency that was not there, it was never "their flying" (nor was the TWE routes, but thats a different story)

Why do you guys think Hulas bent over backwards to keep the relationship open with the ground contract, etc? He wants to do at-risk flying for AX when things turn around. Plus, one codeshare partner is VERY risky, he'd prefer to diversify his portfolio.
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:21 AM
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BringDaFunk, best laugh I've had in a while!

Read post 26, cause I really don't feel like typing it out again. It'd be really helpful if before you wrote all in bold and caps and 168 font if you'd read the other arguments in the thread. The main one being that, well, a strike probably won't happen and thats not at all our goal, even though we are willing to.
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BringDaFunk View Post
Just remember Monday June 15th!-We'll see you out on the line!
Huh? What's going on on the 15th? Is somebody striking? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
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Huh? What's going on on the 15th? Is somebody striking?
This dude thinks he can change the airline industry by leading a minuscule fraction of the airline pilots out there to be inefficient (walk slow, fly slow, and volunteer for holds) thereby resulting in greater pay and QOL. The kickoff is supposedly June 15th.

There is a thread on this, go check it out.
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Originally Posted by BringDaFunk View Post
Its too bad you guys cant see.
The industry is too volatile for a strike!
You'll be shooting yourself in the foot, noone will pay attention, or get the sense of what you are trying to do.....
True, the industry is all up in arms; furloughs, pay cuts, ect... However, the American public is more than likely going to be behind pilot groups just because of how the media exposed the lower pay scales at regionals vs. majors during their "coverage" of Colgan 3407.

Keep fighting the good fight, TSA'ers.

Remember: We are TWICE the pilots HALF the pay.
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