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Old 07-01-2010, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP View Post
Compass and TSA are both ALPA...and I'm sure there are plenty of TSA alums working at Compass.

There's no reason whatsoever that both airlines' pilot groups couldn't work together for the benefit of BOTH.
The problem is that Hulas would control them now. I hope you are right though.
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Old 07-01-2010, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 View Post
except that Hulas already won in court saying TSA and GoJets are different companies all while sharing HQ's and multiple other departments. It will be near impossible to force a single carrier petition and merged list with compass having its own HQ, maint, dispatch, sched. etc. :-(
There is no reason why they couldn't merge the pilots though. You can have separate certificates. Just think of it three certificates competing against each other and two represented by the same union. The other represented by a garbage truck union.
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Old 07-01-2010, 10:50 AM
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The only horrible thought I have with merging the seniority lists, in my opinion would be the bitterness created among the pilot groups. TSA pilots are the most senior. If the lists were merged the majority of TSA pilots would automatically jump above the Compass Pilots, knocking them down the seniority list by at least a hundred or so. Now, if I was a Compass pilot, I would be royally pi**ed off, and managment would have won.
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Old 07-01-2010, 10:53 AM
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It will be interesting if TSA and Compass are ran seperatly like SkyWest runs ASA, or if there is going to be a merjer. One would hope that there is no merjer-Compass being a very young airline. Date of hire could be ugly.
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does compass have any sort of scope clause that forces one seniority list for a holding company, ie something like Republic's scope clause
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Old 07-01-2010, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by undflyboy06 View Post
The only horrible thought I have with merging the seniority lists, in my opinion would be the bitterness created among the pilot groups. TSA pilots are the most senior. If the lists were merged the majority of TSA pilots would automatically jump above the Compass Pilots, knocking them down the seniority list by at least a hundred or so. Now, if I was a Compass pilot, I would be royally pi**ed off, and managment would have won.
That is what management is counting on, to have pilots at each others throats. What matters more is the big picture. There is major whipsaw here. As far as the seniority, they could put in provisions like seat locks.
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Old 07-01-2010, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly View Post
Of course he can afford to pay you more..............he just doesn't WANT to.
He doesn't HAVE to pay any more. You (we) continue to work for what he offers. Law of supply and demand. When the pilot shortage happens, however, ............ (Yeah, I know. There ain't one!)
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Old 07-01-2010, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Copperhed51 View Post
So let me get this straight. TSA can't afford to give the pilots a new contract because they're not making much money anymore. The NMB allows them to stall contract negotiations for pretty much forever. Hulas threatens to shut down TSA is we strike. Hulas spends $20 million to buy Compass.

Two things seem clear to me.
1) Hulas CAN afford to pay us more
2) Now if we strike, he probably will shut TSA down because he has cash coming in from Compass and can afford the hit he'd take on TSA.

I'm beyond angry at this RLA/NMB nonsense. If TSA isn't given an immediate proffer after this news, I'm gonna lose my mind.

What did you expect. Has hulas EVER DONE SOMETHING GOOD FOR YOU GUYS!!!! christ!
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Originally Posted by crustacean View Post
<Insert any regional here> troll.
There, fixed it for ya.
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Originally Posted by Bamauofa View Post
will the Compass pilots now be the Hulas Scabs? or will this be the motivation for all TSH pilots to unite and force Hulas to agree to a descent contract.
Unfortunately, a Freudian slip that is today's reality
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