It's gonna be a lot more than 20. And thousands of dollars in bypass pay lost. Awesome.

 

Are you upset that someone senior to you is going to get their rightfully deserved upgrade and pay before you? Excuse me if I can't feel bad for you.

 

Well while you have your feelings out.... Do you feel that someone like the Denver pilot guy didn't get a bit of a shaft with this deal? He's going to be swinging gear for someone junior to him with less hours. He's not allowed to say 'this stinks' in your world?
I mean if ya can't blow it out on APC, then where can ya? Can I get an amen?

 

Again you guys are just making assumptions as to how many people are in front of you. You have no idea until an updated standing bid list comes out. You also aren't reading what the bypass language says. Nobody who has bypass pay will lose it.

 

Amen brother!!

 

I honestly think this is just a way for them to get FOs. Advertise cqfo to get guys to bite when in reality they'll be on the right seat. But like it's been said I'm sure you will still upgrade pretty quick. Remember this is about the company staffing these planes, it's not about what you want, or doing you a favor.

 

I honestly think you are an idiot. The company is not going to pay upwards of $46 an hour for FOs when they can hire them for $24. We are having a lot of guys moving on to UPS, United, and American. I personally know of 6 guys leaving this month, including our MEC Chairman. Lowering the upgrade minimum has to do with the market and the need to upgrade those on property and hire more CQFOs for the left seat.

And for those uniformed people who were saying those getting bypass pay will lose it, ALPA just sent out an email confirming that once awarded bypass pay, you cannot lose it until upgrade. It is an award just like anything else.

Getting sick and tired of uniformed idiots who don't even work here pontificating on what happens at TSA even though they don't have a freaking clue.

There is going to be more work and upgrades here than we can handle this summer. If you want to come here, upgrade fast, and make a bunch of money welcome aboard.

 

You don't seem to understand that it takes two bodies to fly the ERJ. Where will they find FOs? The fact that they lowered mins makes me think they're finally starting to wonder that too.

 

The same place PSA and Mesa are finding them but in greater numbers.

 

The beauty of the CQFO program is you can use people in either seats...as more FO's are needed, that's where the CQFO's will fill...if more CA's then they sit that seat. My guess, the cost of paying an FO $43.xx / hr and having the versatility to use them as a CA if needed it more profitable than giving back the flying.

Trans States has an excellent reputation at negotiating profitable contracts, and the fact that they've lowered CQFO minimums tells me they've got room in their budget to stay in the black with this.

Another piece, the lowering of the CQFO mins now has me qualified for the position again. It'd still be a pay cut, but it's livable. I have other friends that are also considering coming back again, and I'm sure that was part of the goal...this helps attract pilots that are currently out of the industry, but who still meet the minimums. Trans States might be in my future once again...we'll see if I can convince my wife to let me play with jets again.