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Luv2Rotate 02-02-2015 11:08 AM

What IF, Hulas decided to start another airline with lesser pay/benefits to undercut you all with 145's??? I would NEVER trust a Hula ran organization.

Timma 02-02-2015 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1817464)
As long as you can sucker enough poor CFIs into being your right seater. Sad!

As far as your business statements, you'll need to return to college. See kiddo, 76 seat jets make money even when oil is above $80 barrel. Why would AA want to find someone to do it cheaper? It doesn't really matter if that just means more profit. Dougie P said very clearly at a company town hall that keeping flying with a wholly owned makes the company much more money, as long as the costs are somewhat aligned.

Don't act like you got anytbing more than Xjet and Envoy leftovers. And for gods sake, and your souls sake, stop trying to dupe poor unsuspecting cfis!!

Shut up and go somewhere else..

ILOVELAMP 02-02-2015 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1817464)
As long as you can sucker enough poor CFIs into being your right seater. Sad!

As far as your business statements, you'll need to return to college. See kiddo, 76 seat jets make money even when oil is above $80 barrel. Why would AA want to find someone to do it cheaper? It doesn't really matter if that just means more profit. Dougie P said very clearly at a company town hall that keeping flying with a wholly owned makes the company much more money, as long as the costs are somewhat aligned.

Don't act like you got anytbing more than Xjet and Envoy leftovers. And for gods sake, and your souls sake, stop trying to dupe poor unsuspecting cfis!!


The Butt hurt is super strong with this one! I recommend apply preperation H hourly. When the super old seniors cost too much you downsize then apply more cream. Plus why would CFIs go to Envoy for 10 year upgrades? Do you understand what's going on now? Senior citizen business class over.

Dude get over it.

FlyingKat 02-02-2015 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1817464)
As long as you can sucker enough poor CFIs into being your right seater. Sad!

As far as your business statements, you'll need to return to college. See kiddo, 76 seat jets make money even when oil is above $80 barrel. Why would AA want to find someone to do it cheaper? It doesn't really matter if that just means more profit. Dougie P said very clearly at a company town hall that keeping flying with a wholly owned makes the company much more money, as long as the costs are somewhat aligned.

Don't act like you got anytbing more than Xjet and Envoy leftovers. And for gods sake, and your souls sake, stop trying to dupe poor unsuspecting cfis!!

Crusader you just proved your total ignorance in believing anything Doug Parker says. 50 seaters can make money too when they are giving the leases away and reducing capital costs. If you don't think Doug won't hesitate to move airplanes around if the spreadsheet says then you are getting senile which from your posts may very well be the case.

Two years ago he was saying wholly owned airlines don't make sense and was reducing flying at them. One real interesting thing about wholly owneds is maininline can increase or reduce flying at a whim because there is no penalty for this with a wholly owned like there is with another company. Go see how that worked for Comair.

Maybe you need to go back to college if your senile old brain can handle it since your lack of a degree is why you are still at Envoy.

PilotCrusader 02-02-2015 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingKat (Post 1817549)
Crusader you just proved your total ignorance in believing anything Doug Parker says. 50 seaters can make money too when they are giving the leases away and reducing capital costs. If you don't think Doug won't hesitate to move airplanes around if the spreadsheet says then you are getting senile which from your posts may very well be the case.

Two years ago he was saying wholly owned airlines don't make sense and was reducing flying at them. One real interesting thing about wholly owneds is maininline can increase or reduce flying at a whim because there is no penalty for this with a wholly owned like there is with another company. Go see how that worked for Comair.

Maybe you need to go back to college if your senile old brain can handle it since your lack of a degree is why you are still at Envoy.

Time will tell who is right and who is wrong little guy. My bet is against your ghastly company and the fact they are trying to dupe CFIs and FOs.

HuskerAv8tor 02-02-2015 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1817605)
Time will tell who is right and who is wrong little guy. My bet is against your ghastly company and the fact they are trying to dupe CFIs and FOs.

Nobody is getting duped. It is simple, the company is nearly tripling in size, they need people. The math shows quick upgrades for FO's. CQFO's are covered in the contract and it is a good deal for those of us who have no intention of sitting in the right seat of a regional if we can help it. Worst case for us CQFO's we sit in the right seat making more than at our previous airlines. Remember, the TSA pilots did not sign a concessionary contract to get the flying....this is not a PSA/Piedmont situation!

PilotCrusader 02-02-2015 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by HuskerAv8tor (Post 1817634)
Nobody is getting duped. It is simple, the company is trying to triplein size, if they can get enough people. The math shows quick upgrades for a few of the first FOs hired, but ultimately most will not see that. However, our recruiters will try to sell the bigger sweet spot. CQFO's are covered in the contract and it is a good deal for those of us who have no intention of sitting in the right seat of a regional if we can help it. Worst case for us CQFO's we sit in the right seat making more than at our previous airlines.which the math says will happen to some Remember, the TSA pilots did not sign a concessionary contract to get the flying....this is not a PSA/Piedmont situation!we just simply accepted airplanes that the only we might be able to staff them is to create a program that pilfers other regional FOs under false pretenses

Fixed it for ya Chris.

IlliniPilot99 02-02-2015 03:25 PM

I'm blown away at your consistency!

are we in the metaphorical "get off my lawn" old man kind of angry?

geddeh 02-02-2015 03:26 PM

Dont feed the troll.

PilotCrusader 02-02-2015 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by IlliniPilot99 (Post 1817653)
I'm blown away at your consistency!

are we in the metaphorical "get off my lawn" old man kind of angry?

There I go posting fact and logical conclusion and all you have is namecalling! Hahahaha


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