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#11
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,469
"Money is where their power is" because it's where everyone's power is. Try to hire using organizing principles as a compensation basis, you'll be in charge of exactly one guy. What is your union selling? Is it making good on that arrangement? How membership "manages" those perceptions, for themselves, will greatly determine the effectiveness of and satisfaction with, any bargaining in progress. Repealing agency shop fee statutes means less money. Less money is less power, every time.
#12
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: 7th green
Posts: 4,378
Why? Because, as you pointed out, they derive all the pay and benefits from the Union negotiated contract. Therefore, they must share the expense of maintaining said contract.
#13
For one thing, non-members don't pay dues. They pay a contract agency fee which is generally slightly less than the dues members pay.
Why? Because, as you pointed out, they derive all the pay and benefits from the Union negotiated contract. Therefore, they must share the expense of maintaining said contract.
What most people seem to miss is that without collective bargaining, we'd ALL be working for 10% or more less than current wages. They fail to appreciate the gains that have been clawed out over years of blood, sweat, and tears.
They say ignorance is bliss, and freeloaders must be floating in it.
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#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 744 CA
Posts: 4,772
For one thing, non-members don't pay dues. They pay a contract agency fee which is generally slightly less than the dues members pay.
Why? Because, as you pointed out, they derive all the pay and benefits from the Union negotiated contract. Therefore, they must share the expense of maintaining said contract.
Why? Because, as you pointed out, they derive all the pay and benefits from the Union negotiated contract. Therefore, they must share the expense of maintaining said contract.
#15
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 217
Unions protect us from the company, sometimes from each other, and sometimes from ourselves. Freeloaders fall into all of those categories many times.
Route66 would have us believe the choice is getting our current contractual package and paying dues, or our current contractual package and not paying dues. That's wrong.
The choice is between protection (admittedly sometimes flawed) and (almost) no protection. We'd be "at will" employees trying to negotiate individual contracts, and that has never worked out well for the vast majority of labor. The powers behind the RTW movement are the new Frank Lorenzo's of the world. Read "Flying the Line" 1 & 2. They're good reminders of where we've been, and how we got where we are today.
Route66 would have us believe the choice is getting our current contractual package and paying dues, or our current contractual package and not paying dues. That's wrong.
The choice is between protection (admittedly sometimes flawed) and (almost) no protection. We'd be "at will" employees trying to negotiate individual contracts, and that has never worked out well for the vast majority of labor. The powers behind the RTW movement are the new Frank Lorenzo's of the world. Read "Flying the Line" 1 & 2. They're good reminders of where we've been, and how we got where we are today.
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