Originally Posted by Octaflugaron
(Post 2624944)
OUTSTANDING reply, brother. Want your union to REALLY work for you? Make membership optional! There is hope....keep the faith. Change gonna come.
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Originally Posted by guppie
(Post 2624948)
Membership is always optional. You don't have to join the union. You just have to pay your fair share (association fee) of it's cost. After all, Duty of Fair Representation is the law. It states that if your job is covered by a CBA, you will receive the same hard fought pay and bennies as members...even as a nonmember. 'Right to Work' just allows you to be a nonmember AND a freeloader. 'Bankrupt the Unions' is what the legislation should be called. Once the union is gone, we can all fly heavies for Skywest, dba UA,DL, and AA. It'll be swell.
I’m curious how allowing freeloaders to leach, starving unions of dues and allowing guys to negotiate (guaranteed) lower compensation packages individually is going to foster “competition” between unions. |
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 2624959)
No kidding. I’m always amazed that so many airline pilots don’t understand this.
I’m curious how allowing freeloaders to leach, starving unions of dues and allowing guys to negotiate (guaranteed) lower compensation packages individually is going to foster “competition” between unions. |
Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
(Post 2624942)
But earlier....
Yeah, the union did. Funny how folks are climbing all over each other to get the good major airline jobs but can’t quite put their finger on WHY they are better than other jobs in aviation flying the same equipment. Any way I'm done! Most you guys never been in a real union and have no idea what its actually like walk away from an job or standing in front of a non union shop for days blocking traffic and making sure no union/non union drivers enter their property! Plus the days driving around with our union rep cold calling jobs and trying to unionize crews in our local area! Unions aren't just about pizza parts guys! |
Originally Posted by guppie
(Post 2624879)
Big win for the Trump Administration. And guess how many of those 150 co-sponsors of National Right to Work legislation are Democrats? Yep. None. Back the PAC!
Supreme Court Ruling on Janus vs. AFSCME Yesterday's Supreme Court ruling on Janus vs. AFSCME overruled a four-decade-old precedent and is a major loss for the public-sector workers who join together and collectively bargain for their pay, work rules, and benefits. This decision allows some employees the ability to ride the coattails of union workers. In the short term, these "free riders" will gain an advantage without contributing the dues money, time, or effort needed to improve their lives. In the long term, the reduced resources will affect everyone. Although this is a setback to organized labor, the overwhelming majority of workers understand that remaining unified is the best way to fight back against efforts to silence our collective voice. The Janus decision applies to public-sector unions and does not change the laws affecting ALPA membership. However, the so-called "right to work" legislation being pushed in Congress by a minority group of Republicans seeks to achieve similar goals for non-public unions. There are currently 122 co-sponsors in the House, which is below the 218 required for passage, and 28 co-sponsors in the Senate. The UAL MEC Legislative Affairs Committee is working closely with ALPA National's Government Affairs team to ensure our representatives in Congress know that ALPA pilots are united in our opposition to this legislation. You can help our efforts by joining ALPA-PAC and United Pilot PAC (UP-PAC) via these links: Also now the democrats lose a chunk of their funding. |
Originally Posted by APC225
(Post 2624921)
Listened to an interview with Janus. Interviewer pressed him as to why he brought suit and he kept saying that by being forced to pay dues he was forced into giving up his Constitutional freedom of association, forced into giving up his Constitutional freedom of speech. Wished the interviewer had just asked, "Who forced you to work there? Why not just leave?"
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Originally Posted by Slaphappy
(Post 2625156)
You shouldn't be forced to pay to a union. Also public sector unions shouldn't even be allowed.
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Originally Posted by UASCOMPILOT
(Post 2625126)
Face it unions are in a decline most people figured it out that the 1 to 2% they pay in each check is becoming payment to line politicans pockets then a fee for representation!
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Originally Posted by guppie
(Post 2625211)
Pay your dues or get terminated. It’s that simple. See the contract. 😎
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Looks as though some pilots are wanting to recoup 2% of their wages now in favor of giving up 50% of their wages later; not to mention their QOL...
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