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guppie 06-29-2018 08:55 PM

Winning
 
Big win for the Trump Administration. And guess how many of those 150 co-sponsors of National Right to Work legislation are Democrats? Yep. None. Back the PAC!


Supreme Court Ruling on Janus vs. AFSCME

Yesterday's Supreme Court ruling on Janus vs. AFSCME overruled a four-decade-old precedent and is a major loss for the public-sector workers who join together and collectively bargain for their pay, work rules, and benefits.

This decision allows some employees the ability to ride the coattails of union workers. In the short term, these "free riders" will gain an advantage without contributing the dues money, time, or effort needed to improve their lives. In the long term, the reduced resources will affect everyone. Although this is a setback to organized labor, the overwhelming majority of workers understand that remaining unified is the best way to fight back against efforts to silence our collective voice.

The Janus decision applies to public-sector unions and does not change the laws affecting ALPA membership. However, the so-called "right to work" legislation being pushed in Congress by a minority group of Republicans seeks to achieve similar goals for non-public unions. There are currently 122 co-sponsors in the House, which is below the 218 required for passage, and 28 co-sponsors in the Senate.

The UAL MEC Legislative Affairs Committee is working closely with ALPA National's Government Affairs team to ensure our representatives in Congress know that ALPA pilots are united in our opposition to this legislation. You can help our efforts by joining ALPA-PAC and United Pilot PAC (UP-PAC) via these links:

blizzue 06-30-2018 02:30 AM

I am so sick of winning.

APC225 06-30-2018 02:35 AM

Listened to an interview with Janus. Interviewer pressed him as to why he brought suit and he kept saying that by being forced to pay dues he was forced into giving up his Constitutional freedom of association, forced into giving up his Constitutional freedom of speech. Wished the interviewer had just asked, "Who forced you to work there? Why not just leave?"

UASCOMPILOT 06-30-2018 02:40 AM

Maybe some people don't think the union's are winning for them! This ruling will hold the Unions feet to the fire to perform or their out! No longer can the unions just sit back and say oh well we tried! Well, that's not good enough starting today! I'm not tired yet I want more!

guppie 06-30-2018 03:03 AM


Originally Posted by UASCOMPILOT (Post 2624923)
Maybe some people don't think the union's are winning for them! This ruling will hold the Unions feet to the fire to perform or their out! No longer can the unions just sit back and say oh well we tried! Well, that's not good enough starting today! I'm not tired yet I want more!

Settle down Beavis. This ruling only affects public unions. Still a closed shop at the Major Airlines. For now. Pay your dues or get another job/career. No freeloaders.

fireman0174 06-30-2018 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by guppie (Post 2624929)
Settle down Beavis. This ruling only affects public unions. Still a closed shop at the Major Airlines. For now. Pay your dues or get another job/career. No freeloaders.

Today that's true. But do you think it will always be that way? That those who pushed for this ruling will stop there?

I like BIG Bus 06-30-2018 03:59 AM

...Withdrawn...

UASCOMPILOT 06-30-2018 04:01 AM

Chill out Butthead did I say anything about our Association...news flash were not a union!

Furthermore, I've been a real UNION member for 40 years and in this association for over 20 so don't preach to me! How many days do you got walking the line and maintaining the RAT! Were you there walking with Spirit?

I was!

All I'm saying is some people are disenfranchised with the representation their receiving. Or like me someone who will not contribute to socialist Democrats no matter the outcome for my profession!

cadetdrivr 06-30-2018 04:04 AM


Originally Posted by UASCOMPILOT (Post 2624923)
Maybe some people don't think the union's are winning for them! This ruling will hold the Unions feet to the fire to perform or their out! No longer can the unions just sit back and say oh well we tried! Well, that's not good enough starting today! I'm not tired yet I want more!

But earlier....


Originally Posted by UASCOMPILOT (Post 2588095)
Can someone please explains how our 2.5 hour to show on reserve works for LGA and EWR! I live in NJ and can make EWR in an 1:40 but realistically its 3 hours for LGA. So how do you sit reserve for EWR/LGA at the sometime it seems impossible! You would have to be sitting on the GWB to make it with the time allotted! Somebody must have figured this out!

Yeah, the union did.

Funny how folks are climbing all over each other to get the good major airline jobs but can’t quite put their finger on WHY they are better than other jobs in aviation flying the same equipment.

Octaflugaron 06-30-2018 04:10 AM

Group-Think is dangerous
 

Originally Posted by UASCOMPILOT (Post 2624941)
Chill out Butthead did I say anything about our Association...news flash were not a union!

Furthermore, I've been a real UNION member for 40 years and in this association for over 20 so don't preach to me! How many days do you got walking the line and maintaining the RAT! Were you there walking with Spirit?

I was!

All I'm saying is some people are disenfranchised with the representation their receiving. Or like me someone who will not contribute to socialist Democrats no matter the outcome for my profession!

OUTSTANDING reply, brother. Want your union to REALLY work for you? Make membership optional! There is hope....keep the faith. Change gonna come.

Octa


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